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Emp quoted "... now rafa is here 5 yrs and has more money to spend than most managers, he has stevie g and carra already at club and he is where exactly."
more money? rubbish. Spurs have spent more than Rafa!!! and who is Rafa having to compete with here Emp, mid-table sides? No! it's been manure & chelski - has Rafa spent more money than these two? Nope yet he is seen to be a failure by some because he hasn't won the title yet! Pathetic!
where is he 5 years on - well, after the being Champions of Europe and getting to another final 2 years later, an FA Cup, he has just lost out on the title by the finest of margins, after being plagued with injuries to his best two players and now we are one of the most feared teams in Europe. All in five years on very limited funds and p1ss poor owners.
Mr. Nice Guy Zola is not in his class Emp, sorry.
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i'm not taking net crap or facts or what not,could west ham sign either johnson or aqualini ,answer no ,why ? cause we operate on a different planet in terms of who we can bring in and the money we can spend on them. to even mention net or some other facts is rubbish no it's all too regularly apparent that you rarely talk "facts". thanks for the admission. the only apparent fact is that you’ve suggested bringing in a manager with less than one years experience, who’s only managerial success is to keep a team of middle table players from being relegated. then you say that you don’t want to talk facts about spends despite using the same rationale to back up an argument (in previous posts) to sack rafa. honestly emp, i put it to you that you have no factual backup for your argument whatsoever and that the suggestion of zola is on a whim. but don’t worry just once we’re walking around with smiley faces…things will be ok…cos that zola…he’s a nice man. any other qualified arguments you have to bring to the table email them to [email protected]
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Emp, your Zola claims have all the knee jerking traits of your earlier Doyle predictions...
PS has Doyle scored this season yet?
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you say that poor Zola hasn't got the money that Rafa has, so how can Zola be judged, yet YOU judge Rafa and believe he is useless cause he's finding it hard to compete with ferguscum and maureen/ancelotti erm don't you see any similarities here Emp? 
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Emp quoted "... now rafa is here 5 yrs and has more money to spend than most managers, he has stevie g and carra already at club and he is where exactly."
more money? rubbish. Spurs have spent more than Rafa!!! and who is Rafa having to compete with here Emp, mid-table sides? No! it's been manure & chelski - has Rafa spent more money than these two? Nope yet he is seen to be a failure by some because he hasn't won the title yet! Pathetic!
where is he 5 years on - well, after the being Champions of Europe and getting to another final 2 years later, an FA Cup, he has just lost out on the title by the finest of margins, after being plagued with injuries to his best two players and now we are one of the most feared teams in Europe. All in five years on very limited funds and p1ss poor owners.
Mr. Nice Guy Zola is not in his class Emp, sorry. And this is where he ranks amongst liverpools finest managers win percentage: Dalglish 60% Paisely 57.38% Benitez 57.14% Shankly 51.98% Houllier 51.47% Evans 51.33% So give the man some respect and some time, cos i think he deserves it.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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Under houllier we came 2nd, the next year we went backwards.
Under Rafa we came 2nd, this year will dictate if we went backwards, remained the same, or forward...time will tell.
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and Zola is not a better manager Emp so why replace Rafa - after all, isn't this the point of this "post"?
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your over stating his achievements. he is a good manager but thats about it. he is not a great manager and never will be cause he doesn't have the capacity to be. he is wrapped up in his own tactical mind and hence two negative.
remember he is managing on one the most successful and supported sides of all time and in my opinion he has steadied the ship. i don't want him gone cause he hasn't won the title yet or because of net profits or facts or his usual infighting brought to public by him outfighting, thats just moaning and whining , i want him gone cause he doesn't play the game properly ,he nearly does but can't help himself smothering the whole team with his cautious streak.
an example in athens , he had the choice of unsettling the milan defence with the tall crouch,which no team in europe seemed to be able to handle or with the speed and nippieness of bellamy against the aging milan team that don't like runners at them, maybe he could fit both into the line-up. ehh, no rafa drops both and plays dirk kuyt as a lone striker...only because he works harder.. spurs game last week was the usual tripe ,two defensive midfielders that can't play ,just sitting there and repelling attack after attack. everything is on the retreat with rafa..good luck thanks for the help but lets move on
I waited for something new in athens final, didnt come. I dont know why, that doesnt make me feel Rafa needs to go. And i dont agree that Zola plays the game properly too. besides i recall Rafa taking Gerrard off in the Merseyside Derby, everybody said RAFA is gone mad, that sub was what won us that game. So its very difficult to prove and satisfy everyone, i all fairness i doubt Zola would ever reach a champions league final in his entire life as a coach.
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that 2005 final was Rafa setting his team out to play to its best ability which at the time was far inferior to milan. The Redmen held on through shear determination - something the manager has to take credit for!!!
Two years later and we were the better side which also shows the progress our manager had made.
Step back Emp and look at the big picture for once...
(all these posts are like listening to a cracked record!!!)
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and how do YOU know zola's better ffs! as always, all your arguments have no sound bases Emp!
doyle top goal scorer in the premier league! zzzzzzzzzzz
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