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agreed. i imagine that he wont put up with too much of that sh*t.

i wish it would too mate.....going to be a long 3 months.. even more so if the mancs start winning things....my big worry is, i can't see us turning it around next season either...

If that is true then I would like to confirm the position by kicking it from his shoulders into the middle of Goodison Park.

I'm beyond tired of all these disaffected snivelling mothers. They are not normal employees and get paid megabucks to perform at most, 180 minutes a week but constantly moan about being "exhausted". Some - like Agger - are on sick leave for about 9 months a year, often for questionable reasons but never receive a reduced wage or irregular attendance action. They "retire" in their thirties with almost guaranteed careers in coaching, management or the media. If their wives just might give birth within two months of a match they now automatically disappear leaving colleagues (and fans who pay exorbitant sums to watch them) high and dry.

For once, could one of these ridiculous prima donnas show a bit of loyalty and see out the contracts their grasping hands put a signature to?

I am not in his arse - if you read my other posts you would know on occasion I've suggested he be sold in the summer, though lately I've been of the opinion we need to keep him simply because we have no one else. And if you look at the game, while Cole may have been ineffective at least he put himself about the park, which is more than I can say for Gerrard and Reina. Let's face it, outside Suarez who actually shone for us yesterday (in terms of 'would have been man of the match even had we been playing well')? No one. Maybe Kelly, but I didn't feel he was having his best game prior to getting injured. In this light, the performances of N'Gog, Wilson (after Kelly went off), and Cole stood out - and only because they were the best of a bad bunch.

We were terrible in midfield - having praised our "valued" center 3 earlier in the day I was ashamed at how poor they were. This is the same formation that snuffed out Chelsea, but we gave the Hammers all the room in the world and couldn't keep possession; it was Hodgson all over again, and I bet that man is thinking he was right to suggest we should have signed Carlton Cole. How many times did we "work the triangle"? I remember it clearly once, deep into the second half, and only because at the time I thought "that's the first time 3 players have supported each other all game". It like everyone just runs off and forgets that they have to help move the ball up the pitch.

And what the hell is wrong with Johnson at RB? Again - does everyone on our side run away from him when he goes up the touchline? Because it seems like every single time he is tasked with carrying the ball into the opposition half it ends up back with Skrtel/Carra/Reina for a hoof. The amount of hoofing when Kelly is on the park is significantly less. For example, I'm struggling to recall Johnson passing it to Lucas ever, while Wilson found the Brazilian in space more times than I could count, and Kelly is usually able to find Kuyt or Gerrard in support (ie much further forward than from where Johnson is forced to pass it back, though admittedly Kelly does lose the ball more).

I'd also just like to pick up on a point mentioned earlier - we lose far too much momentum when Carra has the ball. There were any number of occasions when a simple but quick pass would have set things in motion, but instead he dawdled around so much he was either forced to hoof it or flat passed it to Skrtel who hoofed it under pressure. Just not good enough. I thought his positioning was pretty poor all game as well, but that could be leveled at all the players who played CB on the day.

We were shocking at the back, poor in midfield, and deserved to be thrashed by more than 2 by the bottom club in the league; my wife was laughing at how poor we were, and she knows nothing about football (no one needed to understand football to know we were cr*p). They should hang their heads in shame, as that was one of our most abject displays all season, in a season of abject displays.

Disapointed in all our players today, THey showed nothing at all, no ambition, no motiviation, nothing to win the game. Suarez was left alone and when he did get the ball, he was our only player trying to make things. I think its time to move Gerrard back into the hole behind the strikers because he was awful in the middle of the park or play him right back or something because seriously he is not a centre midfielder. Bitterly disapointed. West Ham deserved the victory because they were up for it.

I think Carra should have done more to organise the back. I am quite disappointed at him nowadays as he seems inconsistent which is not what we know.

"A Team of Carra's" used to be the saying but not anymore.

Bad day yesterday,it happens...The abuse been thrown at Reina is shocking,we have had a top class keeper for 5 seasons and he seems to be going through a confidence crisis at the moment,and we support him by saying he can f*ck off and F"ck him

We were truly outplayed by west ham. But in all honestly, I thought we were worse under Hodgson. There were games we totally surrendered in all departments under him. Yesterday was poor but not as bad as we were under RH.

But we dont know this mate,we are jumping to conclusions due to the Torres saga,but as far as i am concerned Pepe has been a class proffesional for us for half a decade now,and a few below standard performances does not tarnish that for me.We lost a game badly yesterday thats all,it happens to every team,but i'll gladly suffer that, then be where we were 5 months ago,regarding owners, managers and divisions in the fanbase.Learn from this game,then forget it and move on to our next match.

lfc just doesnt have the capacity to have a player in the ranks who is himming and hawwwing about his future. we need absolute commitment during these times or off with ya. harsh but necessary, and id say reina understands that too.