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u beat me there rafa, thought it was souness

Do you think Kenny is a sh1thouse?

can we bring back that thread about ignoring certain people who talk doom and gloom?

when have i ever said that ? The only thing i have said is judge dalglish on the prescent not the past which surely is fair enough .

I am not suggesting you have said it hence the 'do you think',would it bother you if a fellow red called a great servant of this club a 'sh1thouse'

definition of s sh1thouse...One who spouts the same sh1te in every thread but will change his ID at the drop of a hat, the sh1thouse.

Actually this has little to do with Benitez (a point that you fail to comprehend every time you bring his name into a conversation; you simply don't have an opinion with much bearing on reality. You support "ways" that the club has lost, stand by them as "evidence" that results are not more important than giving a new manager time, and have some interesting ideas on OOTs (though admittedly not as right wing as Reclaim/marine). Your ideas on the topic of managerial activity fit into a very small niche, and while I can't deny you your right to such opinion I would ask that you expand your horizons a little. Try to see what you don't see, rather than beating your head against the wall trying to make us see things that everyone already sees.

Visual hint number 1: there are very few people on this message board who love Benitez; most accept him as a flawed manager, but one who re-established the Liverpool name in Europe. Nothing more, nothing less.
Visual hint number 2: the modern football world is results driven; the average time spent in a managerial position at an EPL club is 1.1 seasons if one ignores Ferguson, Wenger, and Moyes. No one is willing to give a new man time; he must hit the ground running, start as he plans to continue. Such as Kenny did; 2 losses within 4 days of his appointment [not surprisingly], unbeaten in 6 since.

Ok but if results are the benchmark then hodgson was right to be removed when he did , but not after 2 games like some wanted , and if results are to be the benchmark then benitez should have been sacked last january after getting booted out of the CL and humiliated by reading in the F.A.Cup , so if fair is fair it must apply to dalglish if he does well fine but if result fall then he must be judged the same but he wont , And as for being offensive then the personal abuse hodgson got was worse then anything said on here , and the love-in for Rafa the Cleaners the cleaners who specialize in washing the linen in public well thats more offensive than anything .

No, Hodgson should have been gone after the 10 EPL games he wanted as proof of his ability; he really was that bad. Both his inability to get results and the early signs of his own public linen washing were already there. The loss to Everton and its aftermath said everything we needed to know. We tolerated him almost as long as we tolerated Benitez, though to be fair to Benitez he had 5 previous seasons of excellent performance to fall back on as proof that he might be able to turn things around (where Hodgson's "proof" was 35 years of failing to amount to much of anything). You might want to remember that last season actually started quite well, but we just weren't consistent enough and Rafa had taken his eye off the ball by December. Hodgson never seemed to have his eye on the ball at all.

Both are gone now, and we stand better for it. People won't be calling for Kenny's head simply because his EPL record is 4-2-1, his loss at Old Trafford in the FA Cup the day after he was appointed was more due to Howard Webb's officiating than his ability as manager of a squad picked by his predecessor, and his main transfer signing has not even taken the field yet. He also refuses to wash his linen in public, even when everyone wants him to. He is in a different class to the managers who have been here since he left, and that he's already established a better than 50% win ratio shows he's more than capable of getting the results. Early days yet, and let's judge him in the summer, but unless he loses his next 3 EPL matches, his "10 games" are far better than Hodgson's.

Hodgson may have received some undeserved criticism, but he was totally out of his depth, and should have expected such backlash when taking the appointment. It not that we didn't support him; he simply failed to earn our respect because he was, and is, a doddering mid-table manager.