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Originally Posted By: marine boy 1
I think we are the 6th best team in the country overall and I thought we were that under Hodgson and I still say the same under Dalglish.


If we were the 6th best in the league under Hodgson, why is it that he couldn't keep us in the top 10?

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Originally Posted By: thundyr
Originally Posted By: marine boy 1
I think we are the 6th best team in the country overall and I thought we were that under Hodgson and I still say the same under Dalglish.


If we were the 6th best in the league under Hodgson, why is it that he couldn't keep us in the top 10?
it wasnt roys fault its the ;
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but its NOT roys fault. anyone that doesnt agree with that is a OOT or knows northing abt football

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Originally Posted By: man u suck
Originally Posted By: thundyr
Originally Posted By: marine boy 1
I think we are the 6th best team in the country overall and I thought we were that under Hodgson and I still say the same under Dalglish.


If we were the 6th best in the league under Hodgson, why is it that he couldn't keep us in the top 10?
it wasnt roys fault its the ;
lazy players
greedy owners
poor pitch
disrespectful supporters
lack of transfer funds
lack of time
poor weather
empty stadium
colour of the jersey
tea lady
groundsman
youth players
cleaner
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but its NOT roys fault. anyone that doesnt agree with that is a OOT or knows northing abt football

thats is rafa benitez list isnt it because he blamed everyone and anything .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: man u suck
Originally Posted By: thundyr
Originally Posted By: marine boy 1
I think we are the 6th best team in the country overall and I thought we were that under Hodgson and I still say the same under Dalglish.


If we were the 6th best in the league under Hodgson, why is it that he couldn't keep us in the top 10?
it wasnt roys fault its the ;
lazy players
greedy owners
poor pitch
disrespectful supporters
lack of transfer funds
lack of time
poor weather
empty stadium
colour of the jersey
tea lady
groundsman
youth players
cleaner
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but its NOT roys fault. anyone that doesnt agree with that is a OOT or knows northing abt football

thats is rafa benitez list isnt it because he blamed everyone and anything .
no its for all roys backers. credit to roy he didnt blame everyone and everything but his supporters come out with some [oops]. this is manly aimed at reclaim

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but benitez did blame everyone and anything and the benitez apologists come out with the most excuses .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
but benitez did blame everyone and anything and the benitez apologists come out with the most excuses .
yet it's a mystery to me why it is deemed allowable for the media to target his Liverpool predecessor so readily. After all, Rafael Benitez's track record isn't too shabby; having won the Champions' League, having reached the final on another occasion, the semi-final on another occasion and having helped Liverpool to their finest League finish in 19 years. But there we go. One should not argue with the accepted perception, and the accepted perception for so long was that Hodgson's Anfield failure could be laid at the door of the departed Spaniard. "This is Rafa's mess," went the cry. "Poor old Roy had no chance."

(got this from somewhere else but it hits the nail on the head)

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And the Rafa knockers like to rewrite history.
so where exactly do you think this rafa debate goes,apart from round and round like a circle in a spiral like a wheel within a wheel........... tired


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Originally Posted By: lumbar
And the Rafa knockers like to rewrite history.
so where exactly do you think this rafa debate goes,apart from round and round like a circle in a spiral like a wheel within a wheel........... tired
its easy to blame roy hodgson fine he wasnt good enough easy to blame the owners they were and are corrupt , but i wish people would see the real benitez instead of this saint like figure he gets made out to be , as i say 99.9% of reds are commenting about they way it now conducts it business in-house , not at " Rafa's The Cleaners" in the open the open air washing company special's in washing of dirty linen in public .

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Yes reclaim You were so brave werent you to persist in calling dalglish a SH1Thouse but then of course you changed your name you hero you!

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
fazakerley, the problem is that even those that defend Rafa DON'T see him as a saint. So you're arguing for them to see something they already see. You're creating arguments for no reason then.

I do see the real Benitez. He spent far too much time arguing with people unnecessarily and fighting with the owners, and making it all public. He's not the best at transfer signings, but he does make some really good signings along with the bad. He's not the best man manager either, I'd say he's below average at that, or the best at training players, maybe slightly above average at that. What he is though, is brilliant tactically and he had a vision for the club and the academy. He got great things out of the side he inherited winning a champions league. It was tactically amazing. And we were a real force in Europe for 4/5 years. We came closest to winning the league since Dalglish.

So for all his faults, which we DO see, he was the best manager we've had since Dalglish left, and he put the club back on the map. All this blaming a manager who won us our 5th EC, and put us back on the map, for the sake of a manager who could barely even win an away game, is not right, and so I'll argue with that.
bloody good post mate especially the last sentence

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