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i cant believe some people said he was the best number 9 we ever had lol [oops] off man that is fowlers lol what number was rush cause i cant remember lol


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Originally Posted By: thundyr
"The end is the beginning is the end." (Smashing Pumpkins)

I know that perspective is hard to come by when it comes to Liverpool supporters these days, but "better off" is always a relative term. We've lost the best lone striker in the world, with a squad largely set up to play formations that require a lone striker. It doesn't matter whose fault that is, but that is the sad reality; we stand weaker as a team today.

Now before you rabid communists stick the knife in yet again (don't try deny it; everything you have done and said since Friday regarding Torres is textbook communism), let me just say that Torres was always going to leave; FSG's plan of gradually building would never fit with his need to win something now. Torres didn't abandon us any less than he abandoned his childhood dream of obtaining honour and glory simultaneously. He's grown up now; he realizes you can't realistically have both in a foreign country. He will forget us now; the LFC fans' open-minded reception of his transfer request will certainly make that easy. He is almost certainly thinking how two-faced we are to have propped him up so high only to fall on him like a pack of dogs when he dared to suggest we show some ambition now.

But how will the team stand tomorrow? We still own no wingers or quality left back, positions we should have been addressing with some urgency since the summer quite frankly, but water under the bridge and all that. There are signs that Suarez and Carroll could be a good partnership given their abilities, and I will enjoy watching us taking corners for once. But the question is whether they will be able to play together, whether these two renegades can actually work within the LFC collective. "A biter and a fighter" I dubbed them yesterday (there's a song there, I know it, and hopefully someone can make something out of it, just hopefully something with a bit more class than "We f*cking hate Leeds, Leeds, Leeds. Leeds, Leeds, Leeds."). I'm also sure Kenny is the man with the right plan; I can't believe he'd sign off on spending 35m for a guy who was in the Championship 6 months ago if he didn't see something he could make majestic.

Have we made the right steps? Probably. Torres was no longer a fit with the club, both in purpose and spirit. He will leave a large hole, but at the same time the doubts about his ability to work with his team mates, his ability to bring his game face to each match, and his ability to remain fit are no longer concerns of ours. Perhaps his leaving is the final, necessary cast-off from the H&G era; perhaps only now can we truly move forward again.

With the new "spend as you earn" rules for clubs coming into effect in the summer, a team finally unbound from the last few seasons of doubt and in-fighting, owners who showed they will heavily overpay if they must, and the mere presence of the King, I think we're in a better place than many of our rivals, even if we don't reach our target EPL position this season due to too many new faces and positional weaknesses. I thought I would be upset about having to change my avatar, but I don't feel that way. And that's good.
very good post mate and am with you 100%

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[quote=Top4]Not about optimism for me or negativity just the cold light of day after another ludicrous transfer window comes and goes.

Suarez in (done deal regardless) Torres out for the right money and then like headless chickens panic buy money for Carroll.

What happened to spending wisely?

Where have we strengthened the team prior to yesterday's team sheet?

No Adam and (Spurs just missed out) I bet now it will be an auction come the summer. No young or anyone where we actually have weaknesses that need sorting.

Why is blowing that sort of money from selling Torres looked upon as some great deed?

How is the side now going to get from 7th to 3rd or 4th by the end of the season?

So, what was the point?

Don't think I'll ever criticize Raffa's spending ever again.

Sorry guys, just not impressed with this at all.

Its the truth lad.

how the [oops] has the team been improved by signings carroll( who is injured), suarez, untried in the EPL, and selling a world class striker for 50m.

who the [oops] is going to provide the service for these to strikers, to score goals?/, please don't say kuyt, maxi, i am so angry with all of this BS going on at our club and the tight fcuker henry, who has not spent/released any money from himself, to buy these players.

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35 million for a guy who had almost 5 years left years in contract..Isn't he worth of a 7(around 10 with wages) million a season.?
Common guys!!!! He is worthy of 10M per season.......

We got two quality players who works hard. Hopefully they come good for us..

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I still can't believe the fees we paid for Carrol but he and Suarez would be much better then Torres alone. Now we have 2 goalscorers instead of 1. They are not torres callibre but 2 is still better than 1. I just hope kenny plays both of them together to strngthen their partnership.


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I'm sure that's the intention Snakeye...they play a different styles and should compliment each other....no point in having one of them on the pine..

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We are stonger for the simple reason we don't have to rely on a striker that wasn't given 50% never mind 100%.
We now have two potentially amazing forwards that are hungry to succeed and will give everything to the cause to prove their hunger.

Stroppy sulker to rely on
Two hungry strong forwards that are totally different in a Keegan and Toshack way that they might just gel and cause headaches for evry defence in the prem.

I know which one I would go for.


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suarez goal ratio is not bad at all even though it was in the dutch league but then again van nist came from there too and there isn't much of a difference between there goal to game ratio he hasn't been bad at international level either better then torres so nothing to be down about i recon he will fill the gap left by torres

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Carroll is not as good as Torres but team wise we are now stronger. Thats what it all about winning games. However we have a long way to go yet the midfield and defence need rebuilding completely. Job for the summer and NESV to dip into their pockets.


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