I knew a girl from Lowestoft

anyhow Bill i see like this,We owe Torres nothing. Liverpool should feel no guilt over how Torres's career is panning out. Great players lead their teams to success. Gerrard did it with Liverpool with a poorer team than Torres ever played in. Ronaldo did it with Utd. Torres has done it with neither of his two clubs and that's with playing in a great team (08-09).
It's a fact that Torres gained most of his injuries with Spain and not at Liverpool. It's a fact that we allowed him to be operated so that's he could be ready for the WC, rather than playing him and putting in a challenge for 4th and winning the EL. Liverpool made him. There's no place he's scored more goals than at Anfield. Any other place, and he turns average.
So will people just shut up about the broken promises and what not? bottom line is great players make their team great. Torres has proved incapable of doing that and maybe he should have a look at himself, rather than blaming other people for his lack of trophies.