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What about a duty to the fans to try your best for them, what about your duty to the same fans who have probably skinted themselves to go and support you and how about you own pride about looking at yourself in the mirror knowing you have cheated those fans because you could of done more than you produced...

Your wrong if they were people they would be paid people wages not superhuman ones, you pick up an obscene amount of wages you have to accept you wont be treated the same as everbody else, cant have it both ways, if they dont like it put there name on a different contract which wont ask as much from them...

I agree. Fck me, had to pinch myself, altho, players have got to have a leader they believe in

well it aint there fault how much they get paid if someone put a 120k contract for 5 years in front of you would you sign it of course you would and lets face it is a job and who puts 100% effort in work everyday not me anyway

Managers come and go, there duty should be to the Club, fans and to themselves, so if a player signs for a club and he does'nt try for the manager because he does'nt like him what happens if they replace him with another manager he does'nt like does he keep on not trying until one comes in he does like. Carlos Tevez has proved that even if you dont like the manager you are still expected to honour your contract and try your best for the fans, which in all fairness he done, you did'nt see him sulking when he had problems with Mancini, using a manager as a reason is a poor excuse in anyones book and I cant believe people on here are trying to make excuses...

totally agree mate... it's up to your boss to inspire you to do well...


and as for you RECLAIM. when your at work like footballers are because thats a job to them... your duty, to do your well is to your customers but thats not in your mind when the guy you can't stand is there at you, or ignoring you. there men 1st footballers 2nd

I can see Reclaims point but I don't think it really started with the manager...I think it started witht he two muppets who owned the club prior to FSG!!

they sucked the club dry and had no direction and that filtered through the entire club, hence Rafa got his back up, the players got their backs up and the fans got their backs up....It all starts with the foundations and in the past 3-4 years LFC have had no foundations because the owners didn't give a toss!!

Reclaim, here's another question. Have you recently made a post, as in "any post", where you do not (at least one of)
a) condemn Kenny for leaving the club at the top of the EPL table
b) complain about OOTs
c) with great bitterness mention that our new managerial benchmark is 2 games before calling for his head (when the benchmark is actually 10 games because that's what Roy wanted)
d) pointedly ignore questions asked of you
e) state how it should be impossible for players to have a bad game because they're paid so well (especially Torres even when he's playing well)

All I can say in answer to you is: wait 10 EPL games before deciding that Kenny's head is still stuck at a stadium disaster, realize that without income from abroad LFC would be more than happy to be 12th on the table, try to provide a new perspective rather than the prepared script you quote from each day, try to interact with people trying to have a conversation with you instead of merely being bitter and resentful about the past, and try to understand that footballers are humans not automatons running on better oil than that affordable by other football clubs.

You might begin to enjoy your football.

Come on guys. Your dream came true when Woy left the club. Now just wait and see how it goes in the next few weeks. Hopefully there will be a ray of hope to climb up the ladder in coming months. Yes we did dip this season but hey, wtf, most of us realise how negative Woy football is right. He puts player out of position, he bought some really [oops] players who i think doesnt deserve to wear the Liverpool jerseys and he criticise player when they are not performing. Now let us look into the future and stop pointing fingers

There was a lot more going on than just the owners though. Killemp made a thread about our failings over the last 2 decades last month, and he was mostly right. Not enough quality managers. Not enough quality purchases. Not enough investment. Not enough direction. Too much squabbling. Too many cooks spoiling the broth.

But we did gain one thing: the Academy. That was the only foundation we've gained since the 80s, and to judge by the quality of players like Kelly I think that given time LFC will not need marquee signings every season just to stay in the top 4. It took a long time to burn us down to the level we're at, and it will take time to re-establish our position at the top of the table. But it seems that now we're moving in the right direction for once. Owners who want to win. Players, management, and fans who are focussed on the football not the boardroom. A (temporary) manager who bleeds reddest of all Reds.

We still need investment. We still need a bigger stadium. We still need good player purchases. We still need strong leadership making the correct decisions regarding our squad and our football. But most of the negativity around LFC is gone, as is our debt. Let us hope we can make the most of this opportunity to grow once more.