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Look, I'm sure that in an ideal World we would have an owner who grew up supporting Liverpool on the Kop, with lots of money and who is happy to throw it into the club backing the manager 100%.

Oh yeah, that's righ. We had that with David Moores didn't we? But back then people couldn't shout about how he should sell up to foreign investers loud enough or fast enough. So he did sell up. And this is what we have. Be careful what you wish for next time!

The fact of the matter is that these investment companies are not supporters. They want to make money. Its understandable.

However, in doing so they do have to give the manager funds and guess what? Despite all the cr@p that gets thrown about, they have done this and they have not inteferred with team affairs.
Admittedly they have not thrown money in in the same way that the City and Chelsea owners have, but Benitez must be satisfied enough, because we would hear about it if he wasn't. He's hardly shy about bleating in the press is he?

And as for the stadium, in the middle of a recession do these SOS people really think that they would be able to fund a new stadium instead?? Yeah right.

Enough of this off the field nonsense. The season's about to kick off. Let's support the lads on the pitch and see how we get shall we?

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Ged, just one minor point (because I actually think you talk a degree of sense). You really should consider spelling 'Shankly' (of all names) correctly!

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Ged, just one minor point (because I actually think you talk a degree of sense). You really should consider spelling 'Shankly' (of all names) correctly!
Sorry about that it will be Shanks in future haha

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Originally Posted By: Ricardo
Look, I'm sure that in an ideal World we would have an owner who grew up supporting Liverpool on the Kop, with lots of money and who is happy to throw it into the club backing the manager 100%.

Oh yeah, that's righ. We had that with David Moores didn't we? But back then people couldn't shout about how he should sell up to foreign investers loud enough or fast enough. So he did sell up. And this is what we have. Be careful what you wish for next time!

The fact of the matter is that these investment companies are not supporters. They want to make money. Its understandable.

However, in doing so they do have to give the manager funds and guess what? Despite all the cr@p that gets thrown about, they have done this and they have not inteferred with team affairs.
Admittedly they have not thrown money in in the same way that the City and Chelsea owners have, but Benitez must be satisfied enough, because we would hear about it if he wasn't. He's hardly shy about bleating in the press is he?

And as for the stadium, in the middle of a recession do these SOS people really think that they would be able to fund a new stadium instead?? Yeah right.

Enough of this off the field nonsense. The season's about to kick off. Let's support the lads on the pitch and see how we get shall we?
Fully agree with what you have said there Ricardo although i think you may find your work cut out trying to convince some of the people on here who bury there heads in the sand, wont live in the real world and still think football and the club are the same as what it was back in the 1970s. Your quite right about the stadium and the recession though, I would love to see how many big building projects around the world have been started since the recession has bitten in, not many i guess, but that wont mean i blind bit of difference to the self appointed S.O.S. who just want to beat the two yanks with anything they can get there hands on instead of looking at the bigger picture and how money works in a recession.

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Ged if you think you're living in the real world then you're mistaken!

How can you say this, when I defend the fact that we REDS are supporters of this Great Club and not just profit spending individuals, then you have the audacity to blame Rafa for all the things lacking at the Club! You really have your wires crossed!

Yank - quick bucks whatever the cost

Rafa - Club success whatever the funds

this is the real world ged yet you still choose to argue!

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Originally Posted By: 4ever-reddy
Ged if you think you're living in the real world then you're mistaken!

How can you say this, when I defend the fact that we REDS are supporters of this Great Club and not just profit spending individuals, then you have the audacity to blame Rafa for all the things lacking at the Club! You really have your wires crossed!

Yank - quick bucks whatever the cost

Rafa - Club success whatever the funds

this is the real world ged yet you still choose to argue!
But the sad thing is we are just a business now and we are all customers and clients of the business, when you talk about it being a football club your going back to the days when it was a working class sport which sadly is not now.

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What we need ia people who REALLY love LFC, i dont believe thz Yanks have that kind of love. Love for money surpasses everything for them, coupled with lots of lies. i wonder why Rafa is cool this time around, something fishy imo. If Rafa did not have enough funds for the trnsfr market he wud have jumped on thz Yanks. So to cut it short, i do believe something concrete gonna happen with new owners coming in.

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What we need ia people who REALLY love LFC, i dont believe thz Yanks have that kind of love. Love for money surpasses everything for them, coupled with lots of lies. i wonder why Rafa is cool this time around, something fishy imo. If Rafa did not have enough funds for the trnsfr market he wud have jumped on thz Yanks. So to cut it short, i do believe something concrete gonna happen with new owners coming in.
he might be cool as you say because the owners have given him what he wanted by getting shut of Parry, the waiter might have an understanding with them that if they got shut of Parry he would'nt rock the boat in the future, apart from crying in the papers about not being given enough funds for players.

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What we need ia people who REALLY love LFC, i dont believe thz Yanks have that kind of love. Love for money surpasses everything for them, coupled with lots of lies. i wonder why Rafa is cool this time around, something fishy imo. If Rafa did not have enough funds for the trnsfr market he wud have jumped on thz Yanks. So to cut it short, i do believe something concrete gonna happen with new owners coming in.


The Yanks are businessmen. They are not Liverpool fans. Hell, they are not even football fans - not proper football anyway! That's the sacrifice you make when you sell up. Moores was a proper Liverpool fan who loved the club (as was Parry actually) and everyone moaned then too!

The Yanks want to defend their investment. You can understand that. However, saying that money surpasses everything doesn't really fit in with their actions. Benitez has been given the money he has required. Torres, Mascherano, Keane, Johnson - all big money signings funded by the Yanks. Big long term contracts for key players - all funded by the Yanks.
They are not a charity and money will always be a factor but they are also clever enough to know that they need to keep putting money into the team to keep it successful on the field, which is what they have done

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Originally Posted By: shenus
What we need ia people who REALLY love LFC, i dont believe thz Yanks have that kind of love. Love for money surpasses everything for them, coupled with lots of lies. i wonder why Rafa is cool this time around, something fishy imo. If Rafa did not have enough funds for the trnsfr market he wud have jumped on thz Yanks. So to cut it short, i do believe something concrete gonna happen with new owners coming in.


The Yanks are businessmen. They are not Liverpool fans. Hell, they are not even football fans - not proper football anyway! That's the sacrifice you make when you sell up. Moores was a proper Liverpool fan who loved the club (as was Parry actually) and everyone moaned then too!

The Yanks want to defend their investment. You can understand that. However, saying that money surpasses everything doesn't really fit in with their actions. Benitez has been given the money he has required. Torres, Mascherano, Keane, Johnson - all big money signings funded by the Yanks. Big long term contracts for key players - all funded by the Yanks.
They are not a charity and money will always be a factor but they are also clever enough to know that they need to keep putting money into the team to keep it successful on the field, which is what they have done
I agree, nobody can say the manager has not been given serious funds and time by the two owners.

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