Brexit

Posted by: EnergisedReds

Brexit - 13/10/21 05:08 PM

How is Brexit going SP, happy? For me all fine with the GBP back to normal, at least so far
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 13/10/21 06:59 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
How is Brexit going SP, happy? For me all fine with the GBP back to normal, at least so far


Itís going great worked out great for both us. Best decision ever made by the British people and not one political party in Britain wants to change it. Which pretty much says it all
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 14/10/21 03:25 PM

lol
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 14/10/21 08:15 PM

funny that govt internal leak about [oops] the environment and climate change .. just before boris talks nonsense at COP26
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 15/10/21 12:54 PM

Boris will be talking nonesense at the climate change conference I agree

Britain goes back to the Stone Age and China does nothing nor does most of the world

Poor people in the UK will pay the price for this nonsense. If man made climate change is true (a huge if) then the entire world should act in unison.
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 15/10/21 05:33 PM

sure he does nothing but talk nonsense , biggest waste of space ever
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 17/10/21 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Boris will be talking nonesense at the climate change conference I agree

Britain goes back to the Stone Age and China does nothing nor does most of the world

Poor people in the UK will pay the price for this nonsense. If man made climate change is true (a huge if) then the entire world should act in unison.



In what part of the world are you living?
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 17/10/21 04:02 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Boris will be talking nonesense at the climate change conference I agree

Britain goes back to the Stone Age and China does nothing nor does most of the world

Poor people in the UK will pay the price for this nonsense. If man made climate change is true (a huge if) then the entire world should act in unison.



In what part of the world are you living?


Climate change is real and a natural event that has occurred since the earth was formed London in the Middle Ages was a Mediterranean climate hence the name vine street on the monopoly board in the 1800,s the Thames froze over. When the Vikingís discovered Greenland it was green grass and they named it so, itís a frozen tundra today. What is entirely unproved is climate change is anything to do with mankind. Whether you believe that or not is like religion a matter of faith
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 17/10/21 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Boris will be talking nonesense at the climate change conference I agree

Britain goes back to the Stone Age and China does nothing nor does most of the world

Poor people in the UK will pay the price for this nonsense. If man made climate change is true (a huge if) then the entire world should act in unison.



In what part of the world are you living?


Climate change is real and a natural event that has occurred since the earth was formed London in the Middle Ages was a Mediterranean climate hence the name vine street on the monopoly board in the 1800,s the Thames froze over. When the Vikingís discovered Greenland it was green grass and they named it so, itís a frozen tundra today. What is entirely unproved is climate change is anything to do with mankind. Whether you believe that or not is like religion a matter of faith


On this one I prefer to listen to scientists rather than the conspiracy theorists
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 18/10/21 10:19 AM

no its all religion lol.. bloody moron.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 18/10/21 09:13 PM

Rather than call people a bloody moron would you care to provide the proof climate change is man made emp ? I wonít hold my breath

And vish listening to scientists is fine as is listening to experts (remember them?) but itís not a substitute for thinking for yourself
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 18/10/21 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Rather than call people a bloody moron would you care to provide the proof climate change is man made emp ? I wonít hold my breath

And vish listening to scientists is fine as is listening to experts (remember them?) but itís not a substitute for thinking for yourself


when u think its dangerous lol. Proof? bloody listen to or read any of the 99% of scientists ... the bloody temp is rising , even if ur a moron like u and think its all religious, just out of caution we should do everything we can to stop it rising. Now if u actually read up on it u can see the scientists work.. the temp has never risen this gradually and its correlates with the industrial revolution ..what u think happens when u pump billions of CO2 into the atmosphere and also destroy all the bloody trees.. and the fact is its already happening ..global warming is now ..ur just a thick moron ...u moron.

its actually mad i have to post a reply but there seems to be a lot of u trump type morons in the west now sadly..
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 19/10/21 02:09 PM

I am not sure the temp is rising there is debate over that but the weather is changing for sure. In fact it always changes over decades always has. As for 99% of scientists donít know where that fact comes from.

Scientists cannot predict the weather in decades ahead they can barely predict it for the next day. But the weather changes thatís a fact whether mankind changes it is the question and thatís unproven. I asked you to prove it emp and other than calling me a bloody moron and telling me 99% of scientists say it no evidence there came,

I remember in the 70,s our science teacher telling the class we were heading into a new ice age that was taught in schools there was no argument it was fact then and scientists all said it. No ice age came

That taught me a valuable lesson in life by all means listen to experts but use your brain as well.

Try it
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 19/10/21 02:12 PM

And for the record I am an environmentalist and I agree we are destroying the planet and very rapidly too. But itís not emissions thatís the problem.

We are too dominant a species too much of the world is being developed the seas are overfished and polluted. There are simply too many Homo sapiens on this planet

Nature will sort it one day

So you have a point emp you are just barking up the wrong tree
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 19/10/21 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
And for the record I am an environmentalist and I agree we are destroying the planet and very rapidly too. But itís not emissions thatís the problem.

We are too dominant a species too much of the world is being developed the seas are overfished and polluted. There are simply too many Homo sapiens on this planet

Nature will sort it one day



So you have a point emp you are just barking up the wrong tree


u are barking mad..99.9 of scientist ..all religious is it?


he scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the Cop26 summit in Glasgow.

The degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies. This means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.

A previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering Earthís climate.

This has been updated and expanded by the study by Cornell University that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.

The latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to November 2020 was conducted in two stages. First, the researchers examined a random sample of 3,000 studies, in which they found only found four papers that were sceptical that the climate crisis was caused by humans. Second, they searched the full database of 88,125 studies for keywords linked to climate scepticism such as ďnatural cyclesĒ and ďcosmic raysĒ, which yielded 28 papers, all published in minor journals.

The authors said their study, published on Tuesday in the journal Environmental Research Letters, showed scepticism among experts is now vanishingly small.

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ďIt is really case closed. There is nobody of significance in the scientific community who doubts human-cased climate change,Ē said the lead author, Mark Lynas, a visiting fellow at Cornell University.

This echoed the view expressed in August by the worldís leading scientific body, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which said: ďIt is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land.Ē

The general public does not yet understand how certain experts are, nor is it reflected in political debate. This is especially true in the US, where fossil fuel companies have funded a disinformation campaign that falsely suggests the science is not yet settled, similar to the campaign by tobacco industries to cast doubt on the link between smoking and cancer.

The paper cites a 2016 study by the Pew Research Center that found only 27% of US adults believed that ďalmost allĒ scientists agreed the climate emergency was caused by human activity.

Many senior Republicans continue to cast doubt on the link between human activity and the climate crisis as market researchers have advised them to do since at least the presidency of George W Bush. According to the Center for American Progress, 30 US senators and 109 representatives ďrefuse to acknowledge the scientific evidence of human-caused climate changeĒ. Several big media organisations and social networks also promote climate-sceptical views that have little or no basis in science.

Lynas said the study should encourage them to review their policies. ďThis puts the likes of Facebook and Twitter in a quandary. It is pretty similar to vaccine misinformation; they both lack a basis in science and they both have a destructive impact on society. Social networks that allow climate misinformation to spread need to look at their algorithms and policies or to be forced to do so by regulators.Ē

Some commentators have challenged the significance of a scientific consensus, saying it is a distraction from more pressing concerns. However, they say it is important for media organisations to avoid giving a false sense of balance by giving equal weight and coverage to for-and-against arguments. Most important, a consensus is seen as vital for a concerted international response to the climate crisis.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 20/10/21 11:18 AM

Nice cut and paste emp but no evidence. I have read much on the climate change evidence no need to paste from an article. However itís all assertions based on data.

Thatís not proof itís an opinion.

And remember the climate change industry is worth billions if not trillions. Many scientists rely on climate change for their job and income

I donít know whether man made climate change is fact. But even if it is Britain acting alone is pointless given we are 0.9% of the worlds emissions. China India Russia and the USA the worlds biggest polluters are largely ignoring it. China is not even attending the Glasgow conference

In terms of environmental measures I am all for them I was green before it became fashionable to be green. But putting a few poor people in western countries into dire poverty will solve nothing whether man made climate change is true or not

And emp rather than insulting and cutting and pasting why not use the brain god gave you ?
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 20/10/21 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Nice cut and paste emp but no evidence. I have read much on the climate change evidence no need to paste from an article. However itís all assertions based on data.

Thatís not proof itís an opinion.

And remember the climate change industry is worth billions if not trillions. Many scientists rely on climate change for their job and income

I donít know whether man made climate change is fact. But even if it is Britain acting alone is pointless given we are 0.9% of the worlds emissions. China India Russia and the USA the worlds biggest polluters are largely ignoring it. China is not even attending the Glasgow conference

In terms of environmental measures I am all for them I was green before it became fashionable to be green. But putting a few poor people in western countries into dire poverty will solve nothing whether man made climate change is true or not

And emp rather than insulting and cutting and pasting why not use the brain god gave you ?


omg u really are thick
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 21/10/21 12:05 PM

Saying I am thick is code for you have no answers to my post. What do 99% of the scientists in China say about climate change emp ? Slightly different to what UK scientists say I wager.

I will admit I donít know but I am bright enough to know unless the entire world acts (particularly the major polluters) Britain hammering the poor with stratospheric energy bills will achieve nothing other than creating misery

And how odd a toy town socialist revolutionary supporting capitalism and hammering the poor
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 21/10/21 10:59 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Saying I am thick is code for you have no answers to my post. What do 99% of the scientists in China say about climate change emp ? Slightly different to what UK scientists say I wager.

I will admit I donít know but I am bright enough to know unless the entire world acts (particularly the major polluters) Britain hammering the poor with stratospheric energy bills will achieve nothing other than creating misery

And how odd a toy town socialist revolutionary supporting capitalism and hammering the poor



wtf are u jabbering on about..can u not control the verbal diarrhoea ? so the gas and lecky price rises are the fault of environmentalists now? lol .. u really are just ridiculous . ur all ready hammering the poor to death and fossil fuel usage is set to increase even further.. u right wing bullshitters are just so full of crap its untrue
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 23/10/21 10:26 AM

Thinking not your thing is it ?
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 23/10/21 12:54 PM

I think ur full of
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 24/10/21 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Rather than call people a bloody moron would you care to provide the proof climate change is man made emp ? I wonít hold my breath

And vish listening to scientists is fine as is listening to experts (remember them?) but itís not a substitute for thinking for yourself


So you just want to think for yourself instead of listening scientists who have data, so you just want to believe in something without anything to back you, right? As for experts on Brexit, you just wait and see, not having enough truck drivers is only a small incident right now.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 25/10/21 11:16 AM

As I said previously listen to scientists but still think for yourself

Brexit is a prime example all the experts were saying how terrible it would be they were 100% wrong. Except they were not experts at all but selective quotes from pro remain politicians and newspapers. Anyone who took that in without looking behind the political rhetoric is an idiot

Climate change is a different situation but undoubtedly also politics is a play and there is huge money behind the climate change industry. Climate change is happening whether itís man made is an opinion there is no proof whatsoever only assertions

But even if man made climate change is accurate itís utterly pointless Britain acting alone all that will achieve is putting British people into poverty and the vulnerable in our society the rich will be fine. And the man made climate change is a religion of the well off in society

Come to the poorer areas where I live and you will hear a different tale heat or eat is the problem day to day for families not what silly Greta thunburg is spouting or the Rich at the Glasgow conference flying in on private jets
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 25/10/21 12:36 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
As I said previously listen to scientists but still think for yourself

Brexit is a prime example all the experts were saying how terrible it would be they were 100% wrong. Except they were not experts at all but selective quotes from pro remain politicians and newspapers. Anyone who took that in without looking behind the political rhetoric is an idiot

Climate change is a different situation but undoubtedly also politics is a play and there is huge money behind the climate change industry. Climate change is happening whether itís man made is an opinion there is no proof whatsoever only assertions

But even if man made climate change is accurate itís utterly pointless Britain acting alone all that will achieve is putting British people into poverty and the vulnerable in our society the rich will be fine. And the man made climate change is a religion of the well off in society

Come to the poorer areas where I live and you will hear a different tale heat or eat is the problem day to day for families not what silly Greta thunburg is spouting or the Rich at the Glasgow conference flying in on private jets


jesus ur a moron.. brexit is a disaster bty.. but the no deal was the big fear, u got a crap deal and yet ur fishing and farming industries are destroyed, u do have shelf shortages, fuel crises and nobody to collect bins ...giant rats in the uk now even bigger than the ones in the tory party .. which is the worst thing to come from brexit ..u have right wing morons running ur country.. disaster indeed..

So yes trump morons like u should keep ur trap shut and let the scientists - 99.9% of them lead us to safety.. its the whole human race we talking about ...so shut ur stupid face please
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 25/10/21 01:19 PM

Insults and talking like a toy town gangster emp is in town
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 25/10/21 03:27 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Insults and talking like a toy town gangster emp is in town


u deserve to be insulted .. u and all u nut job right wing morons , u even made spitting image relevant again..bloody 1980's retro nutjobs
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 25/10/21 03:53 PM

No answers to any question that requires the intellect above a 10 year old
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 25/10/21 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
No answers to any question that requires the intellect above a 10 year old


yes there is , just stick a union jack up behind a camera and head off to marbella
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 26/10/21 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
As I said previously listen to scientists but still think for yourself

Brexit is a prime example all the experts were saying how terrible it would be they were 100% wrong. Except they were not experts at all but selective quotes from pro remain politicians and newspapers. Anyone who took that in without looking behind the political rhetoric is an idiot

Climate change is a different situation but undoubtedly also politics is a play and there is huge money behind the climate change industry. Climate change is happening whether itís man made is an opinion there is no proof whatsoever only assertions

But even if man made climate change is accurate itís utterly pointless Britain acting alone all that will achieve is putting British people into poverty and the vulnerable in our society the rich will be fine. And the man made climate change is a religion of the well off in society

Come to the poorer areas where I live and you will hear a different tale heat or eat is the problem day to day for families not what silly Greta thunburg is spouting or the Rich at the Glasgow conference flying in on private jets


It's not measures on climate change which will make the poor poorer and the rich, richer but measures that governments take to share wealth, and the tories are more for less sharing from what I understand of UK politics, for example tories get funding from big business whereas Labour funding is from Unions, tories are more for lower taxes, lower salaries. I am really lost listening to your views, you seem to be for helping the poor but vote for those supporting the rich, so which is which, you must be a very confused person.
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 26/10/21 06:35 PM

these new even more right wing tories are literally destroying the uk . .. its truly shocking... raw [oops] sewage pumping out all around the country,, people can't even swim anymore.. tories are swimming the country in [oops].. it is without a doubt the most suicidal moronic country ever.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 28/10/21 01:55 PM

Mr S Park, I suppose you are not feeling the pain...not yet?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59070020
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 28/10/21 10:33 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Mr S Park, I suppose you are not feeling the pain...not yet?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59070020


Feeling a lot of pain all to do with COVID. No one can predict the long term but if this guy is right we will deal with it. One thing for sure we are never going to rejoin the EU. You were ruled by the British empire right ? When you left was there no problems at all when you left ? Not one ? And will you be rejoining the British empire anytime soon ?
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 29/10/21 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Mr S Park, I suppose you are not feeling the pain...not yet?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59070020


Feeling a lot of pain all to do with COVID. No one can predict the long term but if this guy is right we will deal with it. One thing for sure we are never going to rejoin the EU. You were ruled by the British empire right ? When you left was there no problems at all when you left ? Not one ? And will you be rejoining the British empire anytime soon ?


We were a colony and had no voice, whereas, I don't think you were a colony in the EU, you had a very strong voice. That said, the small majority decided to leave, so be prepared for all the consequences, a pain is not one when it's self inflicted, and Covid only covered the cracks. If you are happy with it, so be it.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 29/10/21 07:46 PM

We had no control over our laws in the EU i would imagine a colony is the same

But whatever

What I think does not matter what matters is what the British voter thinks and thatís very clear 5 times we voted to leave the EU either in referendum or elections we never voted to join the EU. Post brexit not a single political party has rejoining the EU as a policy

That says all you need to know. Will we be better or worse off ? No one knows and no one cares. By the way I notice you did not put a link to the German economy ? Itís in big trouble
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 30/10/21 03:14 AM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
We had no control over our laws in the EU i would imagine a colony is the same

But whatever

What I think does not matter what matters is what the British voter thinks and thatís very clear 5 times we voted to leave the EU either in referendum or elections we never voted to join the EU. Post brexit not a single political party has rejoining the EU as a policy

That says all you need to know. Will we be better or worse off ? No one knows and no one cares. By the way I notice you did not put a link to the German economy ? Itís in big trouble


Not sure what you mean about the German economy, they will still grow this year albeit at a slower pace mainly because of supply chain disruption as they are highly industrialised. Here's the link. As for UK, you were the fastest growing economy in the EU before Brexit, looks like you've fked it up.

https://www.dw.com/en/german-economy-minister-slashes-2021-growth-forecast/a-59636414
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 01/11/21 04:51 PM

You donít know what you are talking about vish. Firstly I believe Britain is still the fastest growing economy in the G7 or near to top.

But secondly our leaving the EU should have little effect on the economy we left political union not economic union. We have gone back largely to the common market situation. We still have tariff free access and actually our exports to the EU have actually gone up since we left.

Also leaving the EU was never about the economy we voted for sovereignty
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 02/11/21 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
You donít know what you are talking about vish. Firstly I believe Britain is still the fastest growing economy in the G7 or near to top.

But secondly our leaving the EU should have little effect on the economy we left political union not economic union. We have gone back largely to the common market situation. We still have tariff free access and actually our exports to the EU have actually gone up since we left.

Also leaving the EU was never about the economy we voted for sovereignty


All must be fine then, I wonder why even the fishermen are complaining
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 04/11/21 11:25 AM

The fishermen might be complaining but they are french fishermen should you read the news. But even if they were all British they are a microscopic part of the British population. British fisherman voted for brexit because of Eu restrictions.

Are there minor problems after we left the EU? Sure there are but itís now in the power of our government to solve them.

Itís clear for reasons I donít understand you dislike Britain and the British people and your hobby in life seems to be attacking them and our society and itís people
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 05/11/21 05:19 AM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The fishermen might be complaining but they are french fishermen should you read the news. But even if they were all British they are a microscopic part of the British population. British fisherman voted for brexit because of Eu restrictions.

Are there minor problems after we left the EU? Sure there are but itís now in the power of our government to solve them.

Itís clear for reasons I donít understand you dislike Britain and the British people and your hobby in life seems to be attacking them and our society and itís people


Saying that I dislike the British people is completely unjustified and false, I don't know why you always confuse Brexiters with British people. Most of my British friends and business partners still think Brexit was a bad thing for the UK and will be more and more obvious in the long term as well, do they also hate British people? You must be joking if you think you represent the views of all British people
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 06/11/21 07:30 PM

Your British friends donít represent the British people, the British people voted to leave the EU not just in the referendum but 3 general elections and one euro.

The view of the British voter is clear.

You were completely wrong on all counts on the economic impact and you are now reduced to snide remarks about anything you can find going wrong which you can attribute to brexit.

You are entitled to an opinion but the British people have moved on long ago
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Brexit - 07/11/21 12:31 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Your British friends donít represent the British people, the British people voted to leave the EU not just in the referendum but 3 general elections and one euro.

The view of the British voter is clear.

You were completely wrong on all counts on the economic impact and you are now reduced to snide remarks about anything you can find going wrong which you can attribute to brexit.

You are entitled to an opinion but the British people have moved on long ago


We will see if my British friends were wrong or not, I mentioned them only because you said I disliked the British people, which is complete wrong and stupid
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Brexit - 07/11/21 06:33 PM

Who cares whether your British friends are right there are near 70 million people in Britain. Not one political party in the UK wants to rejoin the EU that says everything you need to know. Were everything terrible since leaving the EU that would not be the case.

You seem to spend your entire life attacking Britain and itís people I have no idea why
Posted by: EMP

Re: Brexit - 10/12/21 02:36 PM

lol this is the longest resignation ever lol