Striker crisis already?

Posted by: The Kop Prophet

Striker crisis already? - 04/09/21 04:10 PM

FSG made another massive mistake by not signing another striker in the window. Firmino got injured - and now Minamino has pulled out of the Japan squad with an injury. Figures right? They never learn!

So now we'll have to rely on the rusty (and somewhat lazy) Origi - or perhaps Ox in the false 9 until he gets injured. Won't be long before the likes of Kade Gordon are needed.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 02:09 AM

Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
FSG made another massive mistake by not signing another striker in the window. Firmino got injured - and now Minamino has pulled out of the Japan squad with an injury. Figures right? They never learn!

So now we'll have to rely on the rusty (and somewhat lazy) Origi - or perhaps Ox in the false 9 until he gets injured. Won't be long before the likes of Kade Gordon are needed.


I don't think they were relying much on Mina anyway, except for the cups and when Salah and Mane go to the AFCON, but we are definitely very thin in attack
Posted by: klopp4kop

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 11:04 AM

https://www.koptalk.com/forums/ubbthread...html#Post638431 <- what happened to this?

It seems like we are the only team affected by COVID. Because teams like Chelsea, United, City etc. have managed to do business just fine.

We needed a midfielder and striker, but we failed to capitalise on this window.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 01:23 PM

If we manage to finish in the top four and optimise profits FSG will regard it as a good year. David Moore’s famously said this club exists to win trophies those days are long gone.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 02:12 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
If we manage to finish in the top four and optimise profits FSG will regard it as a good year. David Moore’s famously said this club exists to win trophies those days are long gone.


Appears that way, winning something is a bonus for FSG, FSG just want CL qualification as the bottom line.
Posted by: Hendominator

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 02:35 PM

People have been saying we need a forward because we are short there. I do agree but I feel we are a lot more short in midfield with Wij gone. Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Ox and Keita have all faced lenthly spells on the sidelines before and I feel this will be the problem again this season. It’s not a coincidence that Wij played almost every game despite not being first choice necessarily. That’s FSG for you though, stingy c*nts!
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 04:14 PM

Originally Posted By Hendominator
People have been saying we need a forward because we are short there. I do agree but I feel we are a lot more short in midfield with Wij gone. Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Ox and Keita have all faced lenthly spells on the sidelines before and I feel this will be the problem again this season. It’s not a coincidence that Wij played almost every game despite not being first choice necessarily. That’s FSG for you though, stingy c*nts!


Good point
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By Hendominator
People have been saying we need a forward because we are short there. I do agree but I feel we are a lot more short in midfield with Wij gone. Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Ox and Keita have all faced lenthly spells on the sidelines before and I feel this will be the problem again this season. It’s not a coincidence that Wij played almost every game despite not being first choice necessarily. That’s FSG for you though, stingy c*nts!


Do you know that we are sure to lose both Mo an Sadie beginning of next year because of the AFCON, who do we have to replace them, Origi, Minamino?
Posted by: klopp4kop

Re: Striker crisis already? - 05/09/21 09:26 PM

If we win anything this season, it's because Klopp is a genius manager, not because of FSG, they deserve zero credit.
Posted by: Hendominator

Re: Striker crisis already? - 06/09/21 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Hendominator
People have been saying we need a forward because we are short there. I do agree but I feel we are a lot more short in midfield with Wij gone. Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Ox and Keita have all faced lenthly spells on the sidelines before and I feel this will be the problem again this season. It’s not a coincidence that Wij played almost every game despite not being first choice necessarily. That’s FSG for you though, stingy c*nts!


Do you know that we are sure to lose both Mo an Sadie beginning of next year because of the AFCON, who do we have to replace them, Origi, Minamino?


It’ll only be for two league games max. My plan to replace them would be Jota, Firmino, Elliott. That forward line is well capable of holding their own for 2 matches and an FA Cup game. I have faith that we have two decent back ups to the forward line in Firmino and Elliot, I also don’t mind minamino but Klopp doesn’t seem to favour him. I don’t want to see Origi or Gordon at all this season, if they’re on the pitch you know we will be struggling for numbers up front.
Posted by: Hendominator

Re: Striker crisis already? - 06/09/21 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By klopp4kop
If we win anything this season, it's because Klopp is a genius manager, not because of FSG, they deserve zero credit.


+1
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Striker crisis already? - 06/09/21 02:44 AM

Originally Posted By Hendominator
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Hendominator
People have been saying we need a forward because we are short there. I do agree but I feel we are a lot more short in midfield with Wij gone. Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Ox and Keita have all faced lenthly spells on the sidelines before and I feel this will be the problem again this season. It’s not a coincidence that Wij played almost every game despite not being first choice necessarily. That’s FSG for you though, stingy c*nts!


Do you know that we are sure to lose both Mo an Sadie beginning of next year because of the AFCON, who do we have to replace them, Origi, Minamino?


It’ll only be for two league games max. My plan to replace them would be Jota, Firmino, Elliott. That forward line is well capable of holding their own for 2 matches and an FA Cup game. I have faith that we have two decent back ups to the forward line in Firmino and Elliot, I also don’t mind minamino but Klopp doesn’t seem to favour him. I don’t want to see Origi or Gordon at all this season, if they’re on the pitch you know we will be struggling for numbers up front.


What i meant was that we have even less cover in front, if we add Origi, we'll be 3 players less in Jan. What if Jota is injured?
Posted by: Hendominator

Re: Striker crisis already? - 06/09/21 10:35 AM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Hendominator
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Hendominator
People have been saying we need a forward because we are short there. I do agree but I feel we are a lot more short in midfield with Wij gone. Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Ox and Keita have all faced lenthly spells on the sidelines before and I feel this will be the problem again this season. It’s not a coincidence that Wij played almost every game despite not being first choice necessarily. That’s FSG for you though, stingy c*nts!


Do you know that we are sure to lose both Mo an Sadie beginning of next year because of the AFCON, who do we have to replace them, Origi, Minamino?


It’ll only be for two league games max. My plan to replace them would be Jota, Firmino, Elliott. That forward line is well capable of holding their own for 2 matches and an FA Cup game. I have faith that we have two decent back ups to the forward line in Firmino and Elliot, I also don’t mind minamino but Klopp doesn’t seem to favour him. I don’t want to see Origi or Gordon at all this season, if they’re on the pitch you know we will be struggling for numbers up front.


What i meant was that we have even less cover in front, if we add Origi, we'll be 3 players less in Jan. What if Jota is injured?


Well just have to wait and see. Everyone keeps saying “if this player gets injured long term what do we do?” I agree our squad isn’t big enough to cope with a lot of injuries however there’s no guarantees that players will pick up a lot of injuries. Yes Murphy’s law dictates “Whatever can go wrong will go wrong” however we just have to hope for the best.

After last season I think a lot of us are fearing the worst with injuries however you have to remember that our squad has been thin for years and we’ve still won big trophies. In fact we won those trophies before we even had Jota for cover and we only had the front 3 so we’ve acc got more depth now. I’m not thrilled at the lack of signings either but have a little faith.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Striker crisis already? - 06/09/21 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By Hendominator


Well just have to wait and see. Everyone keeps saying “if this player gets injured long term what do we do?” I agree our squad isn’t big enough to cope with a lot of injuries however there’s no guarantees that players will pick up a lot of injuries. Yes Murphy’s law dictates “Whatever can go wrong will go wrong” however we just have to hope for the best.

After last season I think a lot of us are fearing the worst with injuries however you have to remember that our squad has been thin for years and we’ve still won big trophies. In fact we won those trophies before we even had Jota for cover and we only had the front 3 so we’ve acc got more depth now. I’m not thrilled at the lack of signings either but have a little faith.


Of course we have to wait and see, what else can we do. Last season, when we didn't replace Lovren I said, like some others, we were taking a risk because of the brittle Gomez and Matip, then we all know what happened, but we still did nothing early Jan when we were top or second, by the time we did make a hesitant move taking Ozan on loan (I won't even talk Davies because we just bought as he was cheap and was easy to make a profit by selling), we almost didn't qualify for CL, let alone competing to retain the title.

This time you said we needed to buy a midfielder, I disagreed as we have less cover in front especially with both Mo and Sadio supposed to miss a few games. But yes, we can stay as we are, but we are not showing any ambition to win titles. However, anything is possible, even Leicester won the title. The question is, is it normal that we have the 10th or 12th net spend, I mean, how can 10 teams afford more than us?
Posted by: The Kop Prophet

Re: Striker crisis already? - 06/09/21 09:06 PM

Now Elliott is injured... just pulled out of the U21 squad.
Posted by: Snakeye

Re: Striker crisis already? - 07/09/21 04:39 AM

I'm available but I can't run, I will wait in the opposite box and wait for Salah and Mane to fly ahead of me so I'm no longer offside.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Striker crisis already? - 07/09/21 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Now Elliott is injured... just pulled out of the U21 squad.


And so it begins
Posted by: klopp4kop

Re: Striker crisis already? - 12/09/21 11:03 AM

Kop, you made a post earlier last month "are fans too obsessed about signings", well here it is, we are light on forwards. I don't know what FSG are doing. I hope it works out for us, but its not looking good for longevity.
Posted by: The Kop Prophet

Re: Striker crisis already? - 13/09/21 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By klopp4kop
Kop, you made a post earlier last month "are fans too obsessed about signings", well here it is, we are light on forwards. I don't know what FSG are doing. I hope it works out for us, but its not looking good for longevity.


I talked about the fantasy expectations of fans - but always insisted that we were a striker light. WIth Firmino and Eliot out - our backup now seems to be Ox at false 9 - as he just doesn't seem to trust Minamino or Origi. It is indeed looking foolish not to strengthen in that area. An injury to Salah or Mane will effectively kill our season.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Striker crisis already? - 14/09/21 03:38 AM

Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Originally Posted By klopp4kop
Kop, you made a post earlier last month "are fans too obsessed about signings", well here it is, we are light on forwards. I don't know what FSG are doing. I hope it works out for us, but its not looking good for longevity.


I talked about the fantasy expectations of fans - but always insisted that we were a striker light. WIth Firmino and Eliot out - our backup now seems to be Ox at false 9 - as he just doesn't seem to trust Minamino or Origi. It is indeed looking foolish not to strengthen in that area. An injury to Salah or Mane will effectively kill our season.


You can add that Salah and Mane won't be playing for about a month in Jan, even if not injured.
Posted by: klopp4kop

Re: Striker crisis already? - 14/09/21 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Originally Posted By klopp4kop
Kop, you made a post earlier last month "are fans too obsessed about signings", well here it is, we are light on forwards. I don't know what FSG are doing. I hope it works out for us, but its not looking good for longevity.


I talked about the fantasy expectations of fans - but always insisted that we were a striker light. WIth Firmino and Eliot out - our backup now seems to be Ox at false 9 - as he just doesn't seem to trust Minamino or Origi. It is indeed looking foolish not to strengthen in that area. An injury to Salah or Mane will effectively kill our season.


Yeah agree, Salah and Mane will be going to AFCON, so we will be in trouble for 2 months
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Striker crisis already? - 14/09/21 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By klopp4kop
Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Originally Posted By klopp4kop
Kop, you made a post earlier last month "are fans too obsessed about signings", well here it is, we are light on forwards. I don't know what FSG are doing. I hope it works out for us, but its not looking good for longevity.


I talked about the fantasy expectations of fans - but always insisted that we were a striker light. WIth Firmino and Eliot out - our backup now seems to be Ox at false 9 - as he just doesn't seem to trust Minamino or Origi. It is indeed looking foolish not to strengthen in that area. An injury to Salah or Mane will effectively kill our season.


Yeah agree, Salah and Mane will be going to AFCON, so we will be in trouble for 2 months


The AFCON 2022 has fell pretty well, they only miss 2 games, at home to Brentford and away at Crystal Palace, so could have been allot worse.

Hopefully we will bring a forward in January with Elliott out.