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#641355 - 14/09/22 04:25 PM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: BARTON42]
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Originally Posted By BARTON42
Iím wondering do we play 3-5-2 .with Konate/Gomez as the third CB and Fabhino plus Thiago in the centre of midfield?


But we don't have enough midfielders and a lot of forwards

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#641356 - 14/09/22 05:14 PM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: BARTON42]
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Originally Posted By BARTON42
[/quote]So would your midfield be Thiago, Fabhino and Matip playing in front of Trent?


I'd actually put Matip in the center with Thiago left and Fabinho on the right. I think TAA would lose something if we tried him on right side midfield, he plays much better getting forward from deep as players backoff him. If TAA is further upfield I think part of his ability will get taken away because of how congested it gets the further upfield he is. TAA's passing is sublime from distance, also didn't he get tried a few times for England right side midfield and was pretty much a bust?

Elliott is a liability and we should look to use him in domestic cup comps or when games are done and dusted.

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#641357 - 15/09/22 04:26 AM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
Originally Posted By BARTON42
So would your midfield be Thiago, Fabhino and Matip playing in front of Trent?


I'd actually put Matip in the center with Thiago left and Fabinho on the right. I think TAA would lose something if we tried him on right side midfield, he plays much better getting forward from deep as players backoff him. If TAA is further upfield I think part of his ability will get taken away because of how congested it gets the further upfield he is. TAA's passing is sublime from distance, also didn't he get tried a few times for England right side midfield and was pretty much a bust?

Elliott is a liability and we should look to use him in domestic cup comps or when games are done and dusted. [/quote]

Don't think Matip has the stamina to play in the midfield, he is already often injured playing in a position where he doesn't need to cover a lot of kms.

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#641374 - 19/09/22 11:49 AM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: BARTON42]
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#641403 - 23/09/22 06:40 PM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: EnergisedReds]
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i would put all my trust in elliot over taa, Trent can't be arsed to even try defend better.. elliot is a class act.. the next iniesta .

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#641404 - 24/09/22 02:15 AM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: BARTON42]
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Both Henderson and Trent unused subs in San Siro defeat.

Next game is Monday @Wembley v Germany it will be interesting to see if either of them play.

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#641405 - 24/09/22 08:10 AM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
i would put all my trust in elliot over taa, Trent can't be arsed to even try defend better.. elliot is a class act.. the next iniesta .


Even if he tried Eliott cannot defend, just like Iniesta. I think we have been conceding a lot especially on our right side because Eliott cannot cover TAA when he goes forward. Eliott is more of an attacking midfielder. TAA should stop playing in defence, he's never been a top defender but our best crosser of the ball second to probably on KDB

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#641406 - 24/09/22 09:44 AM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: EnergisedReds]
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hendo always covered taa now hendo injured.

think the coaching staff bear the responsibility, our defending has been shocking even when we winning things. now our attack is blunted the shocking defending becomes more exposed . We seem to think looking unflustered and cool is defending.

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#641408 - 25/09/22 07:56 AM Re: Can Elliott and Trent play together? [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
hendo always covered taa now hendo injured.

think the coaching staff bear the responsibility, our defending has been shocking even when we winning things. now our attack is blunted the shocking defending becomes more exposed . We seem to think looking unflustered and cool is defending.


Hendo always covered TAA because that was the plan when TAA bombs forward bit Eliott cannot do that. This is why I think our defence is so leaky on that side

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