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#640902 - 15/07/22 02:21 PM Pre season chat
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Who looks good who needs to get better discussion
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#640903 - 15/07/22 02:21 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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I mean re the friendly games played
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#640904 - 15/07/22 02:27 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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Harvey Elliot looks back to best and might make the leap up
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#640905 - 15/07/22 04:34 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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I think Nunez will take time to fit in, he didn't look like he was naturally linking well, seemed to be moving ahead and waiting for the ball to be played through which is not really our style and felt we were forcing the attack abit to get the ball to him quickly.

Glad we kept Salah as that will keep the pressure off him abit.

Agree Elliot looks good, Firmino has looked good as well, a good pre-season will set him up well.

Ox injured again, feel sorry for him, but we need to move him on now.

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#640906 - 15/07/22 05:28 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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I can't really get enthused about preseason, it is what it is...training with tv cameras. Klopp uses it the way it should be to get the players fit for the season ahead.

Ox getting injured is dejavu. Will he be ready in time is the £120,000 per week question, before the transfer window closes so we can get rid?

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#640908 - 15/07/22 06:28 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
I can't really get enthused about preseason, it is what it is...training with tv cameras. Klopp uses it the way it should be to get the players fit for the season ahead.

Ox getting injured is dejavu. Will he be ready in time is the £120,000 per week question, before the transfer window closes so we can get rid?



Even if he does get back fit, who is going to risk taking on his £120K a week pay with his record, we will have to heavily subsidise any loan, so we may as well keep him and let his contract run down.

It's a shame, he was a good player when he first joined us, but he has pretty much turned out as Arsenal fans have said.

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#640910 - 16/07/22 04:44 AM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Who looks good who needs to get better discussion


I've watched the United game and read the Palace one. Looks like Eliott is doing quite well and the young Carvalho has shown good potential. Nunez is struggling so far. As for the usual suspects, Salah looks ready to go, TAA looks stronger physically, Diaz is still working hard, Ox is as injured as ever and Jota hopefully is not taking the same path


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#640911 - 16/07/22 08:51 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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I'm still not sure about Elliott, he did this last season... had a good preseason, played a handful of games in PL before getting injured. He's a bit of a headless chicken that you can't fail to notice, although I'm on the fence on his ability and contribution being masked by his exuberance?

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#640913 - 17/07/22 04:20 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
I'm still not sure about Elliott, he did this last season... had a good preseason, played a handful of games in PL before getting injured. He's a bit of a headless chicken that you can't fail to notice, although I'm on the fence on his ability and contribution being masked by his exuberance?



Bear in mind even this year he is only 19 he looks a lot older than he is he could make the breakthrough this season or he might not but in my opinion he is capable of
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#640914 - 17/07/22 07:31 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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I'm much more impressed by Carvalho who is the same age and can see him having a much bigger impact on the 1st team.

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#640935 - 21/07/22 07:24 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Pickles]
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Carvaldo again Elliot and Nunez getting into the groove

Salah looks back to his best as well
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#640936 - 21/07/22 09:00 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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Carvalho is going to be an important player for us this season. Pundits have ignored him when discussing what Liverpool have done in transfer window.

I'd still like to see us bring in another midfielder even if it's Gini back for a season long loan.

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#640938 - 21/07/22 09:52 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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Potentially Elliott and Carvalho are going to be better than Foden and Grealish. That would be a saving of around £150m. Add Bellingham to those next summer and of course we already have Curtis Jones and our midfield in 2 years time could be the best in the world.

Early days I know but they will be given all the encouragement they need.

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#640940 - 22/07/22 03:57 AM Re: Pre season chat [Re: AccaBoosty]
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Originally Posted By AccaBoosty
Potentially Elliott and Carvalho are going to be better than Foden and Grealish. That would be a saving of around £150m. Add Bellingham to those next summer and of course we already have Curtis Jones and our midfield in 2 years time could be the best in the world.

Early days I know but they will be given all the encouragement they need.


From what I've seen, can't see any of the youngsters beating Foden. I really like Curtis, even more than Harvey, but he looks to lack something, maybe he hasn't discovered his best position, he could be our next SG. Carvalho is very technical. However, I think they all need to build up some muscles and grit, which Foden has

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#640945 - 22/07/22 10:15 AM Re: Pre season chat [Re: EnergisedReds]
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I am not totally convinced with Nunez at the moment that’s not a negative I just haven’t seen the wow factor yet
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#640947 - 22/07/22 12:26 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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Whilst we have ? on new players City certainly have, losing Sterling, Jesus, Zinchenko and Fernandinho. That's a lot of firepower and 1st teamers who actively contributed a considerable amount to them. We lost Mane, everything else that left Minamino, Origi and Neco were domestic cup players for us.

I believe City have made a bit of a rick allowing 4 important players to leave especially this season when the 5 subs rule is now in play. I believe this is where we will have an advantage over them this season.

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#640952 - 22/07/22 04:29 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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I'm not 100% sure about Elliot at the top level, he looks a bit flash and skill without the end product. He is still very young though.

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#640955 - 22/07/22 06:08 PM Re: Pre season chat [Re: Stanley Park]
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Klopp is one of the best managers/coaches to bring young players through and develop them, so I would not judge them yet.

They are very raw, under Klopp and playing with the first team they will develop, the likes of Elliot, Carvalho, Kaide Gordon, and Jones are tremendous prospects, we will see how many make it at the top level, but I think it was good management/recruitment bringing them in at a young age, so you can see where we are heading.

When Klopp joined Liverpool, the press were always asking will he buy star players he has managed before like Aubameyang, Lewandowski, Götze or Reuss etc, his answer was always he wants to get the next Aubameyang, Lewandowski, Götze or Reuss and develop them to his system, that is what he is doing now.

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