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To add, we've done better than I expected, we are unbeaten and things are clicking earlier then I expected. Our shooting boots are not in question, we've built up momentum we just need to sustain it. We do need to bring in a player or 2 in January because we won't be able to carry on with the midfield we have due to the fragility in fitness, injuries and discipline.

Hopefully we smash Utd at OT tomorrow, however I'd be happy with a 1 nil win there,

2 nil up and sailing vs Brighton and we end up lucky to escape with a draw.

I guess our defensive frailties were always going to cost us at some point. It seems after the departure of Gini the defence is very vulnerable unless Fabhino is playing.

Well, not only Fabinho, but also Thiago and Naby, you could add James also. Ox and Curtis are not defensive midfielders and we were therefore dominated

I was thinking maybe we should have brought Matip on to play in MF when it went 2-1 to strengthen MF, as we had no other experienced defensive MF options on the bench, I am sure he started his career as a CM so could play that position.

Brighton also played very well.

I think we were always going to be in trouble once Mo stopped scoring his wonder goals.

Also, no excuses with a full strength back line and Fabhino anchoring midfield.

Any ideas what we need to do?

So annoyed with how this game panned out and it has been coming.

Some of the fan channels I watch are quite sympathetic saying it's a one off but it isn't, there is a clear pattern happening of shakey defence with lack of penetration against deep defending. As soon as we conceded 3 to Brentford that was my red flag to say yeah we ain't winning a league like this.

The most annoying thing for the game to me was simply attitude, you can tell we have lost (not completely) some of that ruthlessness which won us the league. Are we that casual on the ball if we played City or another rival? No. We messed that game up because we no longer put the right attitude into games against so called smaller teams. We should have beaten Brentford, Brighton, 10 man Chelsea and now West Ham (although they were fantastic in all fairness). It feels like going back to our first full season under Klopp where we blew top teams away only to loose at Burnley.

We haven't really strengthened since our league win and it's starting to catch up now.

Thiago, not convinced anymore.

Mane is starting to look washed up compared to his first couple of seasons, couldn't hit a barn door.

Salah for as good as he is will never pass to let someone else score.

Midfield becoming injury prone and lacking any kind of game management.

We don't ever look particularly threatening in the final third.

That loss maybe a one off in that Alisson won't have such a poor game for the rest of the season but all the other games we have given away tons of goals is starting to become a pattern.

Not all doom and gloom it has generally up to now been an OK start but the manner of that defeat couple with Chelsea dropping points just tells me we ain't got what it takes anymore.

Still think a cup is a good bet for us but you can kiss the league goodbye. It's not over yet for sure but if we don't tighten up the midfield/defence it's going to be 3 - 4 games before we are out of it and that's too early for us to be giving up.

I think our problem is defending, we score 2 against City and West Ham, 3 against Brentford but still could not win those games. Yes, we could improve our attack as well, but it is not as important