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#637491 - 12/03/21 07:27 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
Shaggydog Offline
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Registered: 30/12/10
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Loc: Derry
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Ministers have staff and advisers not only in UK but every country in the world. Not aware that Britain has been tried in an international court for breaking the law. Britain voted to leave the EU as the United Kingdom separating Scotland and Northern Island has no meaning.

We voted as a nation counted the votes and we (eventually) implemented what the majority in the United Kingdom voted for.

7 years on and you are still arguing over the maths how crazy is that? You come across as dogmatic to the point of mental illness mind you, you still have not come to terms with immigration to Northern Ireland 400 years ago so I should not be surprised



A brexiter is asked to comment on britain's post brexit import controls being extended and starts talking about 400 years ago.

So far the benefits you have listed have been that is isn't as bad as you expected it to be and you can withdraw more money from an ATM. Just like the Netherlands, which managed that without having to leave the EU.

Care to comment on Bojo spaffing 37 billion on your world beating test and trace scheme.

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#637499 - 13/03/21 06:09 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Shaggydog]
Stanley Park Offline
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Registered: 21/10/09
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To repeat for the 400th time we are a free country we are no longer governed externally by the EU, which was on the ballot paper. The people decided and it's been implemented

End of story

I recall nothing on the ballot paper in 2016 about Boris Johnsons track and trace.

Anyone in Northern Ireland unhappy with the current Democratic status of the UK is free to leave. The Republic of Ireland is the obvious choice.
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#637500 - 13/03/21 08:18 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
Shaggydog Offline
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
To repeat for the 400th time we are a free country we are no longer governed externally by the EU, which was on the ballot paper. The people decided and it's been implemented

End of story

I recall nothing on the ballot paper in 2016 about Boris Johnsons track and trace.

Anyone in Northern Ireland unhappy with the current Democratic status of the UK is free to leave. The Republic of Ireland is the obvious choice.


For the 401st time, who invaded your country? Also can you please list those new freedoms that you now enjoy as a result of brexit.

And your solution for those unionists in Northern Ireland who voted for brexit and are unhappy is to move to the Republic of Ireland. Utterly brilliant.

I am starting to understand how brexit happened.

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#637514 - 15/03/21 04:03 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Shaggydog]
Stanley Park Offline
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The EU never militarily invaded the UK (I am not sure they have the capability) but we were invaded politically. We never voted to join the EU and we were not willing participants. Millions were joining UKIP and reluctantly our elite gave the ordinary people a vote. And the British people took it with both hands.

I presume you dislike the British Empire ? you being an Irish rebel etc etc you might be interested to know not all the British Empire was by military invasion. The EU is not unlike the old British Empire in many ways.

Whether you understand Brexit or not, no one cares its DONE ! done and dusted, end of. Most sensible people get on with their lives

You have two options campaign for the UK to re-join or leave the UK. You choose neither taking pot shots at your own country is your role in life. If you call that life.



Edited by Stanley Park (15/03/21 04:04 PM)
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#637515 - 15/03/21 05:15 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
Shaggydog Offline
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Registered: 30/12/10
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Loc: Derry
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The EU never militarily invaded the UK (I am not sure they have the capability) but we were invaded politically. We never voted to join the EU and we were not willing participants. Millions were joining UKIP and reluctantly our elite gave the ordinary people a vote. And the British people took it with both hands.

I presume you dislike the British Empire ? you being an Irish rebel etc etc you might be interested to know not all the British Empire was by military invasion. The EU is not unlike the old British Empire in many ways.

Whether you understand Brexit or not, no one cares its DONE ! done and dusted, end of. Most sensible people get on with their lives

You have two options campaign for the UK to re-join or leave the UK. You choose neither taking pot shots at your own country is your role in life. If you call that life.



The EU never militarily invaded the UK
There's your answer.

Could you please list the names of the countries the EU has invaded.

Unfortunately the UK is discovering that brexit and it's consequences are just beginning. You burying your head in the sand doesn't change that.

What makes you think the EU would take you back. I see the EU has launched legal action against perfidious albion today.

Taking back control - Just not of your own borders.

Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving.

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#637518 - 15/03/21 11:24 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Shaggydog]
Shaggydog Offline
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Registered: 30/12/10
Posts: 11128
Loc: Derry
British Exports to EU

Jan 2020 v Jan 2021

Pork -70%

Beef -68%

Beer -62%


Source: Agricultural Industries Federation

Sunlit uplands indeed


Edited by Shaggydog (15/03/21 11:25 PM)

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#637520 - 16/03/21 07:52 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Shaggydog]
EnergisedReds Offline
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Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 22320
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
British Exports to EU

Jan 2020 v Jan 2021

Pork -70%

Beef -68%

Beer -62%


Source: Agricultural Industries Federation

Sunlit uplands indeed


Doesn't matter, Brexiters did it to feel independent, which is more ideological than anything else, unless lives of a majority really becomes harder, instead of a few exporters and others who run the economy, things will not change

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#637522 - 16/03/21 02:06 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Shaggydog]
Stanley Park Offline
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Registered: 21/10/09
Posts: 27321
Loc: Not the EU
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
British Exports to EU

Jan 2020 v Jan 2021

Pork -70%

Beef -68%

Beer -62%


Source: Agricultural Industries Federation

Sunlit uplands indeed


And ? of course trade was lower in the first month after we left the EU as companies adjust and destocking from December. And there is the small matter of Covid 19 which possibly might be affecting ever so slightly. We left the EU for the long term not a month. And as vish rightly says we left the EU for reasons other than economic and after all these posts you have still not highlighted the benefits of the EU just silly unreseached pot shots from your googling attempts. You really are an oddball. Still if all you are ranting about these days is Brexit and not sectarian hatred that's progress
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#637523 - 16/03/21 03:48 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
EnergisedReds Offline
Liverpool Legend

Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 22320
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
British Exports to EU

Jan 2020 v Jan 2021

Pork -70%

Beef -68%

Beer -62%


Source: Agricultural Industries Federation

Sunlit uplands indeed


And ? of course trade was lower in the first month after we left the EU as companies adjust and destocking from December. And there is the small matter of Covid 19 which possibly might be affecting ever so slightly. We left the EU for the long term not a month. And as vish rightly says we left the EU for reasons other than economic and after all these posts you have still not highlighted the benefits of the EU just silly unreseached pot shots from your googling attempts. You really are an oddball. Still if all you are ranting about these days is Brexit and not sectarian hatred that's progress


Benefits of the EU is on your economy because no trade will be able to replace what you had with the EU and your financial services has already started ti suffer, however, the effects will be felt in the medium to long term. That said, your choice was not based on economics but on ideology. For now, everything is lost in the Covid recession

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#637525 - 16/03/21 05:22 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
EnergisedReds Offline
Liverpool Legend

Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 22320
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
British Exports to EU

Jan 2020 v Jan 2021

Pork -70%

Beef -68%

Beer -62%


Source: Agricultural Industries Federation

Sunlit uplands indeed


And ? of course trade was lower in the first month after we left the EU as companies adjust and destocking from December. And there is the small matter of Covid 19 which possibly might be affecting ever so slightly. We left the EU for the long term not a month. And as vish rightly says we left the EU for reasons other than economic and after all these posts you have still not highlighted the benefits of the EU just silly unreseached pot shots from your googling attempts. You really are an oddball. Still if all you are ranting about these days is Brexit and not sectarian hatred that's progress


But I would agree that being out of the EU has helped the vaccination in UK, definitely

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