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#637767 - 17/04/21 05:15 AM
Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands
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cameron was the moron who announced the ref with zero thought about n.ireland.
and he did make money out of it, he was working for them. he was due 60m he boasted but the company went bust. greensill got other govt contracts so yes they did get through on his corrupt say so. tax payers money to loser thief ceo's of dodgy companies whilst the nhs staff get money taken off them.
oh and he went to mbs in saudi arabia with greensill to beg for money off a murderer .. he says he raised human rights whilst he was there but i can 100% tell u that is a pure lie, u don't go to a murderer looking for money and then insult him..cameron and the tory alt right is a disgrace..the uk needs to wake the hell up Yes he announced the referendum but it was what he promised before winning his election and in a democracy, it is the people who decided, this is what happened in the referendum. So it was democracy at its best, not like in Saudia. He was against Brexit, so you cannot blame him for having given the choice to the people, you want UK to become like Cuba or China or Saudia or what? If people didn't understand what they voted for, that's another issue. If he was working for them, I don't understand why he shouldn't get paid. Lobbying is a normal thing whether done by business or unions, in fact even elections are a way lobbying in a democracy. Unions would say they support so and so based on certain conditions. And what's the problem of getting government contracts if it was done without any fraud or corruption, so innocent until proven guilty
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#637768 - 17/04/21 08:48 AM
Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands
[Re: EnergisedReds]
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1st Team Squad
Registered: 05/04/12
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cameron was the moron who announced the ref with zero thought about n.ireland.
and he did make money out of it, he was working for them. he was due 60m he boasted but the company went bust. greensill got other govt contracts so yes they did get through on his corrupt say so. tax payers money to loser thief ceo's of dodgy companies whilst the nhs staff get money taken off them.
oh and he went to mbs in saudi arabia with greensill to beg for money off a murderer .. he says he raised human rights whilst he was there but i can 100% tell u that is a pure lie, u don't go to a murderer looking for money and then insult him..cameron and the tory alt right is a disgrace..the uk needs to wake the hell up Yes he announced the referendum but it was what he promised before winning his election and in a democracy, it is the people who decided, this is what happened in the referendum. So it was democracy at its best, not like in Saudia. He was against Brexit, so you cannot blame him for having given the choice to the people, you want UK to become like Cuba or China or Saudia or what? If people didn't understand what they voted for, that's another issue. If he was working for them, I don't understand why he shouldn't get paid. Lobbying is a normal thing whether done by business or unions, in fact even elections are a way lobbying in a democracy. Unions would say they support so and so based on certain conditions. And what's the problem of getting government contracts if it was done without any fraud or corruption, so innocent until proven guilty u obviously don't understand the delicate nature of democracy in the uk. There is an act of union and devolution of powers ,plus the good friday agreement . These all work on the vital principle of consent . England telling everyone else whats what doesn't work , so N ireland + Scotland voted to stay in the EU , now N.ireland is close to murder and violence and Scotland will vote to leave the uk... that is why Cameron is a moron , he actually did destroy the uk ..thats his legacy. u obviously don't have a clue about corruption either. Tax payers money is for the benefit of the tax payers . Cameron looked to enrich himself with inside knowledge and connections to recklessly steal tax payers money to give to some gangster business man ..He is a tory sleaze merchant as they all are.. Hancock is now the latest one hiding stuff, had shares in his sister company that somehow managed to win covid public money too, just like his pub landlord who won millions of tax payers money too... meanwhile nhs staff get a pay cut.. if u can't see anything wrong with that then never go into politics
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#637770 - 17/04/21 05:37 PM
Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands
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Liverpool Legend
Registered: 10/01/10
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cameron was the moron who announced the ref with zero thought about n.ireland.
and he did make money out of it, he was working for them. he was due 60m he boasted but the company went bust. greensill got other govt contracts so yes they did get through on his corrupt say so. tax payers money to loser thief ceo's of dodgy companies whilst the nhs staff get money taken off them.
oh and he went to mbs in saudi arabia with greensill to beg for money off a murderer .. he says he raised human rights whilst he was there but i can 100% tell u that is a pure lie, u don't go to a murderer looking for money and then insult him..cameron and the tory alt right is a disgrace..the uk needs to wake the hell up Yes he announced the referendum but it was what he promised before winning his election and in a democracy, it is the people who decided, this is what happened in the referendum. So it was democracy at its best, not like in Saudia. He was against Brexit, so you cannot blame him for having given the choice to the people, you want UK to become like Cuba or China or Saudia or what? If people didn't understand what they voted for, that's another issue. If he was working for them, I don't understand why he shouldn't get paid. Lobbying is a normal thing whether done by business or unions, in fact even elections are a way lobbying in a democracy. Unions would say they support so and so based on certain conditions. And what's the problem of getting government contracts if it was done without any fraud or corruption, so innocent until proven guilty u obviously don't understand the delicate nature of democracy in the uk. There is an act of union and devolution of powers ,plus the good friday agreement . These all work on the vital principle of consent . England telling everyone else whats what doesn't work , so N ireland + Scotland voted to stay in the EU , now N.ireland is close to murder and violence and Scotland will vote to leave the uk... that is why Cameron is a moron , he actually did destroy the uk ..thats his legacy. u obviously don't have a clue about corruption either. Tax payers money is for the benefit of the tax payers . Cameron looked to enrich himself with inside knowledge and connections to recklessly steal tax payers money to give to some gangster business man ..He is a tory sleaze merchant as they all are.. Hancock is now the latest one hiding stuff, had shares in his sister company that somehow managed to win covid public money too, just like his pub landlord who won millions of tax payers money too... meanwhile nhs staff get a pay cut.. if u can't see anything wrong with that then never go into politics So you are saying because the UK is complex democracy is not too good, right? This is what the Chinese communist party says as well. As for corruption etc, with media, everything ends up being known and if the legal system doesn't deal with it, then it's up to the people to deal with it in elections, no? If the majority don't seem to care, like in my country, then we get what we deserve. I rather blame the people instead of politicians
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#637771 - 17/04/21 06:45 PM
Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands
[Re: EnergisedReds]
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1st Team Squad
Registered: 05/04/12
Posts: 9650
Loc: Eire
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cameron was the moron who announced the ref with zero thought about n.ireland.
and he did make money out of it, he was working for them. he was due 60m he boasted but the company went bust. greensill got other govt contracts so yes they did get through on his corrupt say so. tax payers money to loser thief ceo's of dodgy companies whilst the nhs staff get money taken off them.
oh and he went to mbs in saudi arabia with greensill to beg for money off a murderer .. he says he raised human rights whilst he was there but i can 100% tell u that is a pure lie, u don't go to a murderer looking for money and then insult him..cameron and the tory alt right is a disgrace..the uk needs to wake the hell up Yes he announced the referendum but it was what he promised before winning his election and in a democracy, it is the people who decided, this is what happened in the referendum. So it was democracy at its best, not like in Saudia. He was against Brexit, so you cannot blame him for having given the choice to the people, you want UK to become like Cuba or China or Saudia or what? If people didn't understand what they voted for, that's another issue. If he was working for them, I don't understand why he shouldn't get paid. Lobbying is a normal thing whether done by business or unions, in fact even elections are a way lobbying in a democracy. Unions would say they support so and so based on certain conditions. And what's the problem of getting government contracts if it was done without any fraud or corruption, so innocent until proven guilty u obviously don't understand the delicate nature of democracy in the uk. There is an act of union and devolution of powers ,plus the good friday agreement . These all work on the vital principle of consent . England telling everyone else whats what doesn't work , so N ireland + Scotland voted to stay in the EU , now N.ireland is close to murder and violence and Scotland will vote to leave the uk... that is why Cameron is a moron , he actually did destroy the uk ..thats his legacy. u obviously don't have a clue about corruption either. Tax payers money is for the benefit of the tax payers . Cameron looked to enrich himself with inside knowledge and connections to recklessly steal tax payers money to give to some gangster business man ..He is a tory sleaze merchant as they all are.. Hancock is now the latest one hiding stuff, had shares in his sister company that somehow managed to win covid public money too, just like his pub landlord who won millions of tax payers money too... meanwhile nhs staff get a pay cut.. if u can't see anything wrong with that then never go into politics So you are saying because the UK is complex democracy is not too good, right? This is what the Chinese communist party says as well. As for corruption etc, with media, everything ends up being known and if the legal system doesn't deal with it, then it's up to the people to deal with it in elections, no? If the majority don't seem to care, like in my country, then we get what we deserve. I rather blame the people instead of politicians no i am saying cameron is a moron and destroyed the uk , which he has. and he did it cause he is too thick to even think what about scotland what about n.ireland.. he just thought i will win it and thats that. moron. blaming the people is a bit leninist , which is why asia turned socialism into slavism . I think people are ok , the scumbags that think they are above them and its ok to steal from them..them the problem
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#637854 - 26/04/21 09:10 PM
Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands
[Re: EnergisedReds]
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1st Team Squad
Registered: 05/04/12
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What i am saying is that he promised to have a referendum if he won his election and he did, so you cannot blame him to deliver his promise, in fact, this is what we expect from politicians, to deliver what they promise, no?He cannot be a moron for that unless you prefer dictatorships. he is a moron, he did not even think, just i will do this cause nigel farage is shouting loud . A leader is suppose to plan and think , like what about n .ireland and scotland, what about consent..he is a bloody moron , he destroyed the uk. ur simplistic reasoning is just that. and how has boris not resigned yet? its been confirmed he killed thousands of people..he is a mass murderer.. " rather see dead bodies pile up" well thats what he got.. resign u blonde trump moron.
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