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#637692 - 01/04/21 11:08 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
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You are also wrong about the EU economy which is driven by the euro which benefits Germany and a few northern EU states but puts the weaker southern european countries locked in poverty in perpetuity.

The Euro is not economic but political as is the EU armed forces they are talking about. Its about a super state formation nothing to do with economics
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#637693 - 01/04/21 11:57 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
You have not answered my question which was why do you think we will be economically better in the EU when their economy is hardly anything to get excited about?

And if the EU won't ever take us back then what is there to argue about? I hope you are right on that point by the way



Because there is not and has never been one EU economy, but different countries with different economies, some doing great like Germany, Netherlands and others doing badly like Greece and Italy. What is important to be in the EU is that it is the biggest market block, and no trade barriers and smooth transit is great for commerce. Every country I know would like to have barrier free access to that market, including UK, by the way.


I agree and that's the European Economic Community (EEC) something in 1975 the British people voted for. We never voted for the European union (we were denied a vote) economic co-operation I agree with but not political union. A fundamental misunderstanding by remainers and probably the main reason they lost. They concentrated on economic matters (which all proved to be false) and not the benefits of political union. And I notice neither do you.


Not sure i understand your last part, you want the EU to have a political union?

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#637694 - 01/04/21 03:51 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EnergisedReds]
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he prefers tory political acts - like not allowing anyone to see any deals they do. Cut the nhs but give dave cameron loads of money to [oops] down the toilet.

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#637695 - 01/04/21 03:56 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EMP]
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“It is shocking that a former Conservative prime minister not only boasted about how much money he would make from Greensill Capital, but also gave them an open door to government, starting with profiting off our NHS and ending with steelworkers’ jobs at risk,” shadow chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster, Rachel Reeves, said.

“Voting down the very measures that could have stopped Cameron’s poor and hypocritical conduct in the first place is disgraceful,” Reeves added. “It’s the latest example of how Conservative cronyism has weakened our economy, costing jobs and taxpayer money.”

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#637696 - 02/04/21 10:58 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
You have not answered my question which was why do you think we will be economically better in the EU when their economy is hardly anything to get excited about?

And if the EU won't ever take us back then what is there to argue about? I hope you are right on that point by the way



Because there is not and has never been one EU economy, but different countries with different economies, some doing great like Germany, Netherlands and others doing badly like Greece and Italy. What is important to be in the EU is that it is the biggest market block, and no trade barriers and smooth transit is great for commerce. Every country I know would like to have barrier free access to that market, including UK, by the way.


I agree and that's the European Economic Community (EEC) something in 1975 the British people voted for. We never voted for the European union (we were denied a vote) economic co-operation I agree with but not political union. A fundamental misunderstanding by remainers and probably the main reason they lost. They concentrated on economic matters (which all proved to be false) and not the benefits of political union. And I notice neither do you.


Not sure i understand your last part, you want the EU to have a political union?


The EU is a political union
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#637697 - 02/04/21 10:59 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
“It is shocking that a former Conservative prime minister not only boasted about how much money he would make from Greensill Capital, but also gave them an open door to government, starting with profiting off our NHS and ending with steelworkers’ jobs at risk,” shadow chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster, Rachel Reeves, said.

“Voting down the very measures that could have stopped Cameron’s poor and hypocritical conduct in the first place is disgraceful,” Reeves added. “It’s the latest example of how Conservative cronyism has weakened our economy, costing jobs and taxpayer money.”



Completely agree I am just confused what this has to do with Brexit
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#637699 - 02/04/21 06:19 PM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: Stanley Park]
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corruption - tory corruption. As is Brexit, and worse its the alt right moron nutjob side of the tory party. Uk is screwed

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#637702 - 04/04/21 10:55 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EMP]
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another night of unionist riots and violence in belfast - nice one
DUP should be classified as a terrorist organization ..they've been egging, dogwhistling and making this violence happen. "guerilla warfare" they have called for.. bloody disgrace

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#637707 - 05/04/21 05:01 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
another night of unionist riots and violence in belfast - nice one
DUP should be classified as a terrorist organization ..they've been egging, dogwhistling and making this violence happen. "guerilla warfare" they have called for.. bloody disgrace


Saw this on the news, not sure to understand what's going on

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#637708 - 05/04/21 08:07 AM Re: Brexit & the sunlit uplands [Re: EnergisedReds]
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well the DUP who voted for this hard brexit (though N.Ireland voted to remain) are now dealing with the realities of what they voted for ( a complete mess) and are calling for violence against what they voted for. They are a complete shambles and this call to violence should see them classified as terrorists simple as that.

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