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#611562 - 02/10/18 01:11 PM
Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ?
[Re: Stanley Park]
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Liverpool Legend
Registered: 10/01/10
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You may have a lot of Chinese workers Vish and I am sure they are needed and make a valuable contribution. However the key point you have missed is your government is in control. Would you accept a foreign power having control of your government and societies immingration policy ? I suspect not Not if my government was not part of the decision making and had a veto, of course. However, your government was apparently very forceful about it, I wonder why and what has changed. Not sure I understand our government was weak in the past in accepting the mastrict treaty which formed the EU it was done by stealth and john major the prime minster refused to allow the public a vote to join the EU because he knew what the answer would be. No British government was ever forceful about accepting freedom of movement it was something we had to endure until things got totally out of control. Mauritius would never accept the situation Britain was in and neither would you but you are happy to support it from thousands of miles away safe in the knowledge you are ok Ok, but why is it that all your governments from John Major to Cameron wanted the UK to stay in the EU? Any explanation? In fact, I think even now, only a minority want out completely, the likes of Patel, Rees Mogg, Boris, Davies etc, else May would have lost her job.
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#611565 - 02/10/18 01:33 PM
Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ?
[Re: EnergisedReds]
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Liverpool Legend
Registered: 21/10/09
Posts: 27628
Loc: Not the EU
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The EU is another career for MP,s and a very lucrative one too. Once there career in the UK government stalls or is over they go to the lords or become an MEP or EU commissoner. But you are confused Vish our democracy is based on what the people think and want MP,s are supposed to implement it. To be fair I understand why you are confused so am I our political class is self serving and has been for a long time. Yes, must say I am confused There is (and has been for many years) a vast gulf between the political class and the people in Britain. But it's not just Britain the same is happening all over the EU and in the USA. I don't know much about Mauritius but I assume you have politicians who respect and work for the people. In which case you are very lucky
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#611572 - 02/10/18 04:28 PM
Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ?
[Re: Stanley Park]
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Liverpool Legend
Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 22907
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The EU is another career for MP,s and a very lucrative one too. Once there career in the UK government stalls or is over they go to the lords or become an MEP or EU commissoner. But you are confused Vish our democracy is based on what the people think and want MP,s are supposed to implement it. To be fair I understand why you are confused so am I our political class is self serving and has been for a long time. Yes, must say I am confused There is (and has been for many years) a vast gulf between the political class and the people in Britain. But it's not just Britain the same is happening all over the EU and in the USA. I don't know much about Mauritius but I assume you have politicians who respect and work for the people. In which case you are very lucky No, we also have politicians who look after themselves too much, probably more than UK, however, most of our governments have worked more or less closely with the private sector/ business, because without it, there will be no investment and we'll end up like Cuba and the likes (not too many these days). What I find extraordinary with Brexit is that the Tory hard Brexiters, who are supposedly pro business, are saying fk business. From experience I know that business know more about the economy than the government.
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#611584 - 02/10/18 05:43 PM
Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ?
[Re: EnergisedReds]
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Liverpool Legend
Registered: 21/10/09
Posts: 27628
Loc: Not the EU
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I don't think they are saying fk business Vish boris Johnson might have said it but he not the government. The government has shaped the chequers deal to help manufacturing business. However it's wrong to assume brexit will affect all businesses in the UK equally many sectors will gain from brexit from day one. Probably but which businesses would do better and what do they represent in your econony? I am sure that if the likes of BMW, Nissan, JLR, Airbus left, you'll have a major problem It wouldnt be good no - are they leaving then ?
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#611612 - 02/10/18 10:52 PM
Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ?
[Re: Stanley Park]
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1st Team Regular
Registered: 30/12/10
Posts: 11128
Loc: Derry
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our crazy leader is just sticking to the agreement, its your mad lot that are chasing their tails. and why worry...well it effects us believe it or not, whether we are in the eu or not.. crazy right? or absolutely perfectly logical and reality.. U stopped living in reality ? Your thoughtful analysis is that putin owns our ass. Very good how long did it take you to come up with that gem from junior school. Britain has just taken delivery of 5th generation fighters F35 planes that will fly over your head protecting Ireland for free because Ireland can't afford an Air Force. Relations between Britain and Ireland have never been worse because of your prime minister. That has consequences pay for your own air defence or pusade the EU to do it for you. As for passports they should be introduced between mainland Britain and Ireland and future bail outs you can whistle. Relations between Britain and Ireland were much worse during the plantation, the famine, the penal laws or whenever you invaded us. The only nation to invade us is Britain, so you will be protecting us from yourselves. Thanks for that, I think. You have no solution to the Irish border problem (a border that Britain created under threat of all out war) so you attack the Irish. Brexiteers really are strange people.
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