FA Cup

Posted by: Snakeye

FA Cup - 05/01/21 09:01 AM

Klopp needs to take this competition seriously and play the first team, no messing about and playing neco Williams and Keleher, we have an 8 day gap between the fa cup game and Utd so there is no excuses to rest anyone, play them all, let thiago get another 60mins under his belt to get his match sharpness up and let the rest of the first team get back in form. We lost to this lot a couple months ago badly and it would really annoy me to get dumped out again on our asses. Klopp's results in the cups have been poor and he needs to cut this crap out we aren't a non league team just getting knocked out at the first hurdle every bloody season.
Posted by: Oli

Re: FA Cup - 05/01/21 09:49 AM

I am afraid that now he will play Minamino and Shaq and some other mixed team. That is not fair towards Minamino or Shaq as they never get games with the established team. So they can never really show what they are worth. I would rest Bobby and play Minamino and play Shaq in midfield instead of Ox.
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: FA Cup - 05/01/21 12:25 PM

Originally Posted By Snakeye
Klopp needs to take this competition seriously and play the first team, no messing about and playing neco Williams and Keleher, we have an 8 day gap between the fa cup game and Utd so there is no excuses to rest anyone, play them all, let thiago get another 60mins under his belt to get his match sharpness up and let the rest of the first team get back in form. We lost to this lot a couple months ago badly and it would really annoy me to get dumped out again on our asses. Klopp's results in the cups have been poor and he needs to cut this crap out we aren't a non league team just getting knocked out at the first hurdle every bloody season.


Yep it's 8 days rest so play strong side without giving the game away too much regarding what United might expect at Anfield.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: FA Cup - 15/01/21 02:37 PM

Play the fringe players
Posted by: jim_beam

Re: FA Cup - 24/01/21 01:49 PM

When the draw was made against United I was annoyed we had been given another difficult tie yet again when City seem to get only League 2 fodder.

Now with our dip I'm actually really looking forward to this and think it's just what we need. A big important game... only now there is no expectation on us at all, the pressure monkey if off our back. I just want to see them go out and play and enjoy themselves and try and get some of that fun back, win or loose, just go down fighting.

Maybe a good gung ho cup run is just what we need.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: FA Cup - 24/01/21 01:54 PM

The FA cup is not what it once was but I am up to this big time if nothing else it will be a confidence booster play a strong team ignore my earlier post
Posted by: TheMightyLFC

Re: FA Cup - 24/01/21 02:44 PM

Agree with Stan's revised opinion mostly. I wouldn't say we should put so much on this game such that we'll all get terribly upset if we get knocked out. But we should play a strong team with a view to trying to regain form, confidence and work out a solution to our problems. That may mean a few of the back up players being involved and also some new attacking ideas perhaps. That may provide us with useful information for our league campaign as well.

Something like:

Allison, TAA, Phillips, Fabinho, Robertson, Shaqiri, Ox, Thiago, Minamino, Salah, Origi.

Mane, Firmino, Wij, Hendo on the subs bench
Posted by: Snakeye

Re: FA Cup - 24/01/21 09:03 PM

I'm a bit content that atleast we tried by playing a full team, the draw was not kind to us unfortunately but we scored 2 goals so that is an improvement on the past 4 games.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: FA Cup - 24/01/21 09:48 PM

Better performance, we scored 2 goals, hopefully we can carry this into Thursdays game.

I felt for Williams, completely out of his depth as a young defender, he's been dropped in there, I get that as we need to be careful with Matip and hope he stays fit, would Phillips have been a worse option? he has allot more experience at least.
Posted by: elimmel

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 03:51 AM

i would have thought Phillips would be a better option as he's more physical and sticks to his man better. Williams is slow and coupled with his lack of experience, will always struggle against the frontline of man utd.
not the result we wanted but definitely better performance.
Posted by: jim_beam

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 10:50 AM

Yeah felt for Williams, thought he had a fairly confident game overall but there were 1 or 2 glaring moments where you really thought it's too early for the lad but that's not him at fault at all. I can't see he will ever have the pace to be the type of defender we want?

Whenever I've seen Phillips play I thought whilst obviously not quite the caliber we want he has been very confident and no complaints with his actual defending.

Thought we played well for a change so I am please about that.

Why was Matip rested? is it just to ease him back in for Thursday?
Posted by: Oli

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 11:07 AM

Yes think Klopp made the decision to rather have Matip ready for Thursday as he canīt (professional footballer) play two games in one week. Shows how much Klopp can rely on him for the next few (many) weeks.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 12:23 PM

Williams is better on the ball and his distribution is much better, so I think that is why Klopp is playing him, both Williams and Phillips are not fast enough to deal with the Utd forwards, though I think Williams is faster watching him play, but allot of people, say they have similar speed.

I was surprised Phillips did not play against Burnley, you would expect that would have been the perfect game for him, with 2 big physical Burnley forwards having the ball lumped up to them, he would have been heading it away and blocking it all day, like the goal we conceded he would have probably headed it clear, instead Klopp plays Hendo??? I do not get some of our selections ATM, we need to play to the players strengths while we have so many injuries.

What it shows us is neither of them are likely to make it as first team regulars for Liverpool, speed and movement is essential for a PL CB now's.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Williams is better on the ball and his distribution is much better, so I think that is why Klopp is playing him, both Williams and Phillips are not fast enough to deal with the Utd forwards, though I think Williams is faster watching him play, but allot of people, say they have similar speed.

I was surprised Phillips did not play against Burnley, you would expect that would have been the perfect game for him, with 2 big physical Burnley forwards having the ball lumped up to them, he would have been heading it away and blocking it all day, like the goal we conceded he would have probably headed it clear, instead Klopp plays Hendo??? I do not get some of our selections ATM, we need to play to the players strengths while we have so many injuries.

What it shows us is neither of them are likely to make it as first team regulars for Liverpool, speed and movement is essential for a PL CB now's.


Hendo played CB against Burnley? Wasn't it Matip and Fabinho?
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 06:24 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Williams is better on the ball and his distribution is much better, so I think that is why Klopp is playing him, both Williams and Phillips are not fast enough to deal with the Utd forwards, though I think Williams is faster watching him play, but allot of people, say they have similar speed.

I was surprised Phillips did not play against Burnley, you would expect that would have been the perfect game for him, with 2 big physical Burnley forwards having the ball lumped up to them, he would have been heading it away and blocking it all day, like the goal we conceded he would have probably headed it clear, instead Klopp plays Hendo??? I do not get some of our selections ATM, we need to play to the players strengths while we have so many injuries.

What it shows us is neither of them are likely to make it as first team regulars for Liverpool, speed and movement is essential for a PL CB now's.


Hendo played CB against Burnley? Wasn't it Matip and Fabinho?


You are correct, too many games! I think it was Fab who didn't clear the ball on the Burnley goal, being a CM, I think he wants to control and play the ball, whereas someone like Phillips would just knock it away under pressure, anyways, not Fab's fault, he's been great for us this season.
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 06:24 PM

Williams and Phillips are emergency one match cover players only. If we were selling them at the start of the season they would have been way below the Ģ10m we got for Hoever. But we should have played both of them v Burnley or Man United to let Fabinho play midfield.

That is where we are suffering. Our midfield holds everything together and without certain players in their best positions we are finding TAA, Robbo and the front 3 really out of sorts. We can carry one or two through a couple of games but we cannot carry 3, 4 or 5 players off form.

For what it's worth Shaqiri, Origi and Ox have not exactly set the world alight given their chance.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 06:37 PM

I agree, I think part of our problem is that the defence is more exposed by the MF as we have missed Fab and his DM cover, same with Henderson when he has played at CB, Fab has been great as CB, but I do wonder if 2 of Matip/Williams/Phillips behind Fab in CM would be better, we do not seem to have tried that?
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: FA Cup - 25/01/21 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By AccaBoosty
Williams and Phillips are emergency one match cover players only. If we were selling them at the start of the season they would have been way below the Ģ10m we got for Hoever. But we should have played both of them v Burnley or Man United to let Fabinho play midfield.

That is where we are suffering. Our midfield holds everything together and without certain players in their best positions we are finding TAA, Robbo and the front 3 really out of sorts. We can carry one or two through a couple of games but we cannot carry 3, 4 or 5 players off form.

For what it's worth Shaqiri, Origi and Ox have not exactly set the world alight given their chance.


No way. Though Fabinho is required in the midfield, playing those inexperienced and slow defenders would be a recipe for disaster, they cannot take any pressure neither, Rhys missed the ball 3 times yesterday and he is supposed to be better than Phillips