Where will we finish?

Posted by: EnergisedReds

Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 12:59 PM

So, it starts again and last couple of years have been unexpectedly good with the 2 big cups. But this year, we will be expected to at least continue with one big cup. It also looks like the best transfer that could happen is Tiago if Wij leaves, otherwise nothing, so no player reinforcements, only improvements.

Therefore, I think we will win it if our players play to their full potential, especially Salah who has been poor by his own standards last season. VVD has been good last season but not as great as in his first season, so some room for improvement there and Firmino has been well below what he was capable 2-3 seasons back. So IMO, if those 3 players play to their full potential and the rest as last year, we will win it easily.

That said, if we lose VVD, we will not be champions same with Mane or Salah or Alisson and if we lose any 2 of the 4, we wont make CL
Posted by: RedJohn

Re: Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 01:09 PM

I think we all agree it'll be a lot closer, Chelsea probably finishing an easy 3rd depending how well the new players gel.

Lfc are still the most balanced, complete team so we'll win it again if we can avoid major injuries.

That said, if City sign another defender it could tilt it the other way. We were poor in most games after the break and look desperate for some new ideas. As mentioned, we need players like Firmino to rekindle old form and look to Keita or Ox to have a much bigger impact. Minamino even.
Really disappointed we've still got Origi as back up striker.
Posted by: Stanley Park

Re: Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 03:07 PM

depends on injuries it will be either us or city too close to call i will go with city as its hard to win twice on run
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By Stanley Park
depends on injuries it will be either us or city too close to call i will go with city as its hard to win twice on run


I tend to agree because I cant see Salah getting back to his first season performance and with the number of games over the short period we'll lose first team players
Posted by: Pickles

Re: Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 06:24 PM

If we're having to play 2 PL games in a week, we simply don't have the squad to cope. We sold Lovren and didn't get anybody in so Gomes and Matip being VVD's partner is a big risk and we can't expect the kids to step up. I think we seen Klopp use Fabinho at one stage in Charity Shield at the back alongside VVD which tells you he's going to use him there if we are up schitt creek. Then our midfield suffers without Fabinho there and potentially Wij gone to Barcelona.

We've rode our luck with injuries these past 2 successful seasons. It's asking for even more luck for this squad to go 3 seasons without significant injuries, playing with less recovery time between games.

I expect us to fall flat on our ar.ses this season, Top 4 at best with the current squad. Now if we keep Wij, get Alcantara and another CB we will dominate the league again and put in a great showing in the CL, potentially winning it.

To allow Wij to go would be a huge mistake - why sell for 15 to 20m when having him could bring us a lot more? Let him go on a free next season if he wants to...chances are he'll prefer to stay with us winning, than to go to a Barcelona side that are in freefall.
Posted by: Oli

Re: Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 10:32 PM

I hope we will be 3rd or at least 4th and stay in CL. Not adding players while other top clubs get stronger doesn't help at all.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Where will we finish? - 11/09/20 10:35 PM

I expect top 2, will be close with us & City, will depend on what injuries we get, if we do not lose key players for a long time, I think we will win PL again.


Posted by: EMP

Re: Where will we finish? - 12/09/20 01:04 AM

we win it again. Chelsea second. City decline to continue . Utd get sancho and a defender or two and start to worry bout them..hopefully pogba signs new contract and we can forget about them till it ends
Posted by: Snakeye

Re: Where will we finish? - 12/09/20 04:14 AM

The front 3 and Vvd only missed 1 league game last season but if you look anywhere else we were disrupted by injuries all over the field, Alisson missed 3 months, Matip missed majority of season, Gomez missed a handful, Lovren majority of season injured only played 10 league games, Robbo missed a couple or so, I remember Milner playing LB a few times. Moving into midfield Fabinho missed 3 months, Henderson missed some games mid season and the back end of the season, Shaqiri has been injured all season, Naby had an injury hit season, Ox is in and out of injuries and Lallana had a disruptive season too.

Just wanted to point this out because some of you think we had 0 injuries all season.

In terms of where we finish, I think we will retain the title, City 2nd, Chelsea third but it will be very close and playing every 3 days will challenge all clubs.
Posted by: Andred

Re: Where will we finish? - 12/09/20 05:19 AM

First or second, depends on when our fans can get back in, think we miss fans more than City who are used to playing to the Gallagher brothers n a whippet.
I think our tempo is lost a bit without the Kop / 12th man.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Where will we finish? - 12/09/20 06:01 AM

Originally Posted By Andred
First or second, depends on when our fans can get back in, think we miss fans more than City who are used to playing to the Gallagher brothers n a whippet.
I think our tempo is lost a bit without the Kop / 12th man.


City are working hard to have a better squad, so they are favourites.
Posted by: EMP

Re: Where will we finish? - 12/09/20 07:30 AM

Aguero is older and always getting injured. silva left, foden not anywhere near as good. Pep losing the plot. I can't see them doing feck all
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Where will we finish? - 12/09/20 06:30 PM

City still miss Kompany, they have brought no one in who replaces his leadership, on & off the pitch.
Posted by: EMP

Re: Where will we finish? - 13/09/20 12:21 AM

We were a shambles today, scary stuff. Back to the training ground for some serious defensive drills.
Posted by: ghostgoal

Re: Where will we finish? - 13/09/20 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By EMP
We were a shambles today, scary stuff. Back to the training ground for some serious defensive drills.


we won the game against a very good side. Give leeds some credit. They'll take points off teams around us I'm certain of it. Defensively we were rusty yeah, but trent hasnt played a pre-season game and only played for england, a completely different set up to us. Same goes for hendo. We'll have this week to sharpen up defensively. Should be interesting to see how chelsea play on monday.
Posted by: EMP

Re: Where will we finish? - 13/09/20 11:43 AM

Yeah leeds were good, sure we will work on the set up and maybe it will be a welcome wake up call to us. Hope so, hope its not arrogance leading to softness.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Where will we finish? - 14/09/20 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By Snakeye
The front 3 and Vvd only missed 1 league game last season but if you look anywhere else we were disrupted by injuries all over the field, Alisson missed 3 months, Matip missed majority of season, Gomez missed a handful, Lovren majority of season injured only played 10 league games, Robbo missed a couple or so, I remember Milner playing LB a few times. Moving into midfield Fabinho missed 3 months, Henderson missed some games mid season and the back end of the season, Shaqiri has been injured all season, Naby had an injury hit season, Ox is in and out of injuries and Lallana had a disruptive season too.

Just wanted to point this out because some of you think we had 0 injuries all season.

In terms of where we finish, I think we will retain the title, City 2nd, Chelsea third but it will be very close and playing every 3 days will challenge all clubs.


I think everybody is talking about missing our best players, ie, VVD, Mane and Salah. We have enough cover for all our players especially in midfield except for those 3, because Origi, Shaq and Minamino are not the same level
Posted by: EMP

Re: Where will we finish? - 15/09/20 03:32 PM

Already think Chelsea game is make or break for us. Mad as that seems, Chelsea win and they are up up and away. Draw suits City and us winning and we could romp home again. Think we will lose..and heavy too. 3-0
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Where will we finish? - 15/09/20 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By EMP
Already think Chelsea game is make or break for us. Mad as that seems, Chelsea win and they are up up and away. Draw suits City and us winning and we could romp home again. Think we will lose..and heavy too. 3-0


Brighton were unlucky last night, the score line flattered Chelsea, Brighton created lots of chances, Chelsea need to strengthen Defense, GK & MF, they have bought good players, but mostly forwards, where they already had good players.

Chelsea will drops lots of points like they did last season, so I still don't see them finishing top 2, so the next game will not decide anything whatever the result.
Posted by: EMP

Re: Where will we finish? - 15/09/20 07:49 PM

Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EMP
Already think Chelsea game is make or break for us. Mad as that seems, Chelsea win and they are up up and away. Draw suits City and us winning and we could romp home again. Think we will lose..and heavy too. 3-0


Brighton were unlucky last night, the score line flattered Chelsea, Brighton created lots of chances, Chelsea need to strengthen Defense, GK & MF, they have bought good players, but mostly forwards, where they already had good players.

Chelsea will drops lots of points like they did last season, so I still don't see them finishing top 2, so the next game will not decide anything whatever the result.


I disagree..chelsea still have nearly a whole defence to come back , and will sign a keeper. Chelsea think we are billy big balls and werner will want to show us what we missing out on. No margin of error anymore in this league. We have been billy big balls since we won the title. WE NEED TO FIGHT AND WIN!
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Where will we finish? - 16/09/20 02:30 AM

Originally Posted By EMP
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EMP
Already think Chelsea game is make or break for us. Mad as that seems, Chelsea win and they are up up and away. Draw suits City and us winning and we could romp home again. Think we will lose..and heavy too. 3-0


Brighton were unlucky last night, the score line flattered Chelsea, Brighton created lots of chances, Chelsea need to strengthen Defense, GK & MF, they have bought good players, but mostly forwards, where they already had good players.

Chelsea will drops lots of points like they did last season, so I still don't see them finishing top 2, so the next game will not decide anything whatever the result.


I disagree..chelsea still have nearly a whole defence to come back , and will sign a keeper. Chelsea think we are billy big balls and werner will want to show us what we missing out on. No margin of error anymore in this league. We have been billy big balls since we won the title. WE NEED TO FIGHT AND WIN!


Our club doesnt have the ambition to win the league again, we as fans should make up with this, whatever happens, happens, no need to expect a lot.
Posted by: klopp4kop

Re: Where will we finish? - 16/09/20 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By EMP
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EMP
Already think Chelsea game is make or break for us. Mad as that seems, Chelsea win and they are up up and away. Draw suits City and us winning and we could romp home again. Think we will lose..and heavy too. 3-0


Brighton were unlucky last night, the score line flattered Chelsea, Brighton created lots of chances, Chelsea need to strengthen Defense, GK & MF, they have bought good players, but mostly forwards, where they already had good players.

Chelsea will drops lots of points like they did last season, so I still don't see them finishing top 2, so the next game will not decide anything whatever the result.


I disagree..chelsea still have nearly a whole defence to come back , and will sign a keeper. Chelsea think we are billy big balls and werner will want to show us what we missing out on. No margin of error anymore in this league. We have been billy big balls since we won the title. WE NEED TO FIGHT AND WIN!


Our club doesnt have the ambition to win the league again, we as fans should make up with this, whatever happens, happens, no need to expect a lot.


Yeah, just go with it now. I still think we can win the league, however, it's going to be a tough task - everyone has strengthened, and we have not. We've been a bit hit and miss since the lockdown, and we have also lost players.

Nearly every team that has retained the league, had gone on to finding one or two key signings. So - I see this as a waste of opportunity by us, and I hate it when people use the "we are being careful" excuse.