Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m?

Posted by: Dunk

Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 21/10/19 11:46 AM

Rafael van der Vaart thinks so! laugh

http://www.koptalk.com/liverpool-fc-news/virgil-van-dijk-valued-at-more-than-300m/
Posted by: wilkij1975

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 21/10/19 12:55 PM

If he is then Iím sure arsenal will offer £300,000,001 in the summer grin
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 21/10/19 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By Dunk


A player is worth the amount a club would wish to pay, I don't think any club would pay that kind of money for a central defender
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 21/10/19 04:35 PM

He is as he is rare as a great CB, even if you have 300 million, you cannot buy him as there is no VVD alternative. If we win PL he is priceless ad he has helped sort our defence.
Posted by: Hercules/AF 58

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 12:45 PM

A player is worth what any/some club will pay for him. Will any/some club pay £300,000000 for a central defender? Maybe but I doubt it. The question for us is: would FSG bite the hand, arm and shoulder off the first to offer it? Or would they gobble them whole and entire? Would they F**k?
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
A player is worth what any/some club will pay for him. Will any/some club pay £300,000000 for a central defender? Maybe but I doubt it. The question for us is: would FSG bite the hand, arm and shoulder off the first to offer it? Or would they gobble them whole and entire? Would they F**k?


For 300m FSG will drive him themselves, they started with Torres then Suarez and lately Coutinho. To be fair though, all 3 wanted to leave because they didn't feel they will win much staying
Posted by: ghostgoal

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 03:37 PM

As good as VVD is, if a club came in offering 300 mill, I'd sell. We could get a world class replacement for 100 mill and have 200 mill change to pay for mbappe.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By ghostgoal
As good as VVD is, if a club came in offering 300 mill, I'd sell. We could get a world class replacement for 100 mill and have 200 mill change to pay for mbappe.


But why would Mbappe sign if we sold our best player? In any case we will never pay Mbape the wages he wants
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By ghostgoal
As good as VVD is, if a club came in offering 300 mill, I'd sell. We could get a world class replacement for 100 mill and have 200 mill change to pay for mbappe.


So who would you get for £100 million to replace him? the reason he might be worth £300 million is that there are no players anywhere near his quality at CB ATM.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
A player is worth what any/some club will pay for him. Will any/some club pay £300,000000 for a central defender? Maybe but I doubt it. The question for us is: would FSG bite the hand, arm and shoulder off the first to offer it? Or would they gobble them whole and entire? Would they F**k?


For 300m FSG will drive him themselves, they started with Torres then Suarez and lately Coutinho. To be fair though, all 3 wanted to leave because they didn't feel they will win much staying


The difference is we can now pay VvD the money and he can win trophies with us, we were a mess of a club when Torres/Suarez wanted to leave and I cannot really blame them.

VvD waited 12 months to join us after our messup on the approach to Southampton, he believed in Klopp when he could have moved to lots of other clubs if he wanted, including City, probably earning more money, but he wanted to join Klopp.
Posted by: van Gogh

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 27/10/19 10:20 PM

Without Allison's and VVD's mentality we are a wreck in defence.

Just look at what happens when Klopp is playing Lovren! Imagine having him next to Matip or Gomez every week. No surprise we were leaking goals left, right and center before VVD arrived. Allison has then made us even more solid.

When we finally sell VVD, he needs to be replaced by a similar character, who instantly can step in and be the leader at the back - just as VVD did when he arrived nearly 2 years ago.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 06:42 AM

Originally Posted By van Gogh
Without Allison's and VVD's mentality we are a wreck in defence.

Just look at what happens when Klopp is playing Lovren! Imagine having him next to Matip or Gomez every week. No surprise we were leaking goals left, right and center before VVD arrived. Allison has then made us even more solid.

When we finally sell VVD, he needs to be replaced by a similar character, who instantly can step in and be the leader at the back - just as VVD did when he arrived nearly 2 years ago.


Our fortunes changed drastically after our record spending last year. Yes we cannot do that every season but you cannot win titles without top players and a top manager.
Posted by: van Gogh

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 06:45 AM

No that's a fact.

It will be as hard to replace Klopp as any of the other 2 just mentioned.

But we will have to, should they/when they depart. That's the difference between lingering around top 6 and challenging for the title and winning trophies (PL and CL) imo.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 08:05 AM

Originally Posted By van Gogh
No that's a fact.

It will be as hard to replace Klopp as any of the other 2 just mentioned.

But we will have to, should they/when they depart. That's the difference between lingering around top 6 and challenging for the title and winning trophies (PL and CL) imo.


Agree and I will add that we shouldn't stop buying quality even if they don't leave
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By van Gogh
No that's a fact.

It will be as hard to replace Klopp as any of the other 2 just mentioned.

But we will have to, should they/when they depart. That's the difference between lingering around top 6 and challenging for the title and winning trophies (PL and CL) imo.


Agree and I will add that we shouldn't stop buying quality even if they don't leave


I agree, we have seen what an injection of quality can do, for too long we purchased mid-price players to maintain a top 4 challenge, if we want to win trophies, we need to buy quality in key positions when required.

We have also bought really well from relegated teams, the likes of Robertson, Wij & Shaq, so you do not have to spend £100 million on each player.
Posted by: redordead13

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 02:42 PM

Originally Posted By van Gogh
Without Allison's and VVD's mentality we are a wreck in defence.

Just look at what happens when Klopp is playing Lovren! Imagine having him next to Matip or Gomez every week. No surprise we were leaking goals left, right and center before VVD arrived. Allison has then made us even more solid.

When we finally sell VVD, he needs to be replaced by a similar character, who instantly can step in and be the leader at the back - just as VVD did when he arrived nearly 2 years ago.


In 5 years or so, sign De Light or someone similar. No reason for him to go now.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 04:07 PM

Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By van Gogh
Without Allison's and VVD's mentality we are a wreck in defence.

Just look at what happens when Klopp is playing Lovren! Imagine having him next to Matip or Gomez every week. No surprise we were leaking goals left, right and center before VVD arrived. Allison has then made us even more solid.

When we finally sell VVD, he needs to be replaced by a similar character, who instantly can step in and be the leader at the back - just as VVD did when he arrived nearly 2 years ago.


In 5 years or so, sign De Light or someone similar. No reason for him to go now.


To be able to sign de Ligt we will need to have another record sale or new owners
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 28/10/19 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By van Gogh
Without Allison's and VVD's mentality we are a wreck in defence.

Just look at what happens when Klopp is playing Lovren! Imagine having him next to Matip or Gomez every week. No surprise we were leaking goals left, right and center before VVD arrived. Allison has then made us even more solid.

When we finally sell VVD, he needs to be replaced by a similar character, who instantly can step in and be the leader at the back - just as VVD did when he arrived nearly 2 years ago.


In 5 years or so, sign De Light or someone similar. No reason for him to go now.


To be able to sign de Ligt we will need to have another record sale or new owners


And will Juve sell De Ligt? you need to get these players before they move to the top European clubs, like we did with VvD, Mane & Salah.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 29/10/19 02:40 AM

Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By van Gogh
Without Allison's and VVD's mentality we are a wreck in defence.

Just look at what happens when Klopp is playing Lovren! Imagine having him next to Matip or Gomez every week. No surprise we were leaking goals left, right and center before VVD arrived. Allison has then made us even more solid.

When we finally sell VVD, he needs to be replaced by a similar character, who instantly can step in and be the leader at the back - just as VVD did when he arrived nearly 2 years ago.


In 5 years or so, sign De Light or someone similar. No reason for him to go now.


To be able to sign de Ligt we will need to have another record sale or new owners


And will Juve sell De Ligt? you need to get these players before they move to the top European clubs, like we did with VvD, Mane & Salah.


They might for a record fee but we don't pay that kind of money unless we sell at a record fee or have new owners. Highly unlikely though.
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 29/10/19 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
[quote=redordead13]

To be able to sign de Ligt we will need to have another record sale or new owners


And will Juve sell De Ligt? you need to get these players before they move to the top European clubs, like we did with VvD, Mane & Salah.


They might for a record fee but we don't pay that kind of money unless we sell at a record fee or have new owners. Highly unlikely though.


We rarely buy from the top European teams, usually it's from the second tier teams like Roma etc, as we will not pay the money needed to prise them away from the top clubs like a RM would, if we wanted De Ligt, we needed to sign him in the summer from Ajax, unless he fails at Juve, then we might be able to pick him up in a few years, but the fans will then complain we are signing a failed player who couldn't make it at a big club!
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Is Virgil van Dijk worth £300m? - 30/10/19 03:17 AM

Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
[quote=redordead13]

To be able to sign de Ligt we will need to have another record sale or new owners


And will Juve sell De Ligt? you need to get these players before they move to the top European clubs, like we did with VvD, Mane & Salah.


They might for a record fee but we don't pay that kind of money unless we sell at a record fee or have new owners. Highly unlikely though.


We rarely buy from the top European teams, usually it's from the second tier teams like Roma etc, as we will not pay the money needed to prise them away from the top clubs like a RM would, if we wanted De Ligt, we needed to sign him in the summer from Ajax, unless he fails at Juve, then we might be able to pick him up in a few years, but the fans will then complain we are signing a failed player who couldn't make it at a big club!


No money mate, we have bills to pay