Aston Villa £100m spend

Posted by: Anonymous

Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 09:25 AM

Yet we can't improve our squad because OX and Lallana are new signings... haha gotta love American PR spin
Posted by: wilkij1975

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 11:37 AM

And this couldnít have gone in any of the other FSG threads?
Posted by: redordead13

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 12:25 PM

Who says there is no money to spend? The bloody window just opened. Let's complain after the window shuts, yeah?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By wilkij1975
And this couldnít have gone in any of the other FSG threads?


No....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By redordead13
Who says there is no money to spend? The bloody window just opened. Let's complain after the window shuts, yeah?


Window has been opened a while... club journo's being fed info, klopp saying the same, john henry saying in the US we only bought vvd and alisson cos of coutinho sale.. sell to buy policy still in place. Just wondered as our biggest mistake in not winning the PL was standing still during success instead of capitalising on it
Posted by: redordead13

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 12:50 PM

Yeah, and until this week players have been on international duty.

Some of our best business has been out of nowhere. I wouldn't be surprised if a Pepe or Fernandes type signing happened in the next few weeks.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By redordead13
Yeah, and until this week players have been on international duty.

Some of our best business has been out of nowhere. I wouldn't be surprised if a Pepe or Fernandes type signing happened in the next few weeks.


More chance of me signing..... the club have leaked to paid off journos that we're only spending £20m on an attacker, why would you set a limit? seems like FSG dont like the wage bill that comes with buying good players. fsg selling the fans that they're using the budget to boost vvd/salah/mane contracts yet reality is they've already sold £50m worth players since jan and just cut about £300k a week off the wage bill with sturridge, moreno etc
Posted by: redordead13

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 01:42 PM

We'll see. Our rivals haven't really signed anyone spectacular either. Long way to go.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By redordead13
We'll see. Our rivals haven't really signed anyone spectacular either. Long way to go.


Griezmann just gone to barca, the market will move once Neymar/Pogba go
Posted by: redordead13

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By Confused
Originally Posted By redordead13
We'll see. Our rivals haven't really signed anyone spectacular either. Long way to go.


Griezmann just gone to barca, the market will move once Neymar/Pogba go


Do Barca play in the prmier league now?

You're saying the market will move now. As in, it hasn't yet. Interesting. There hasn't been much activity at all.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By Confused
Originally Posted By redordead13
We'll see. Our rivals haven't really signed anyone spectacular either. Long way to go.


Griezmann just gone to barca, the market will move once Neymar/Pogba go


Do Barca play in the prmier league now?

You're saying the market will move now. As in, it hasn't yet. Interesting. There hasn't been much activity at all.


course not but clubs tend to stay tight until the big moves are made.... boosts their prices, hence spurs just outbidding arsenal for saliba
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 07:08 PM

Seem to remember Fulham spent something like £120m on "improving" their Championship team.

That worked well!!
Posted by: WNP

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 12/07/19 07:45 PM

These promoted teams that splash the cash always do [oops]. They bring in some mercenaries and it destroys the team chemistry that got them promoted. Happened to QPR a while back too.

What they should really be doing is buying one or two quality/PL proven players to compliment the team that got them into the league in the first place. It would allow them to strength their weakest areas while maintain the team spirit
Posted by: elimmel

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 03:40 AM

Originally Posted By Confused

course not but clubs tend to stay tight until the big moves are made.... boosts their prices, hence spurs just outbidding arsenal for saliba



hmmm... clubs staying tight... so maybe that's why our own transfer activities are slow as well? plus other factors like copa and African cup...plus the windows open for less than 2 weeks...
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By SSO
Seem to remember Fulham spent something like £120m on "improving" their Championship team.

That worked well!!


Wolves spending 80m last season served them well though, so it's more about spending rightly. The teams promoted hardly have squads strong enough to compete and they have to step up quickly or will go down.
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 06:32 AM

Wolves had a supply of Portuguese players from a Portuguese agent and they had a Portuguese manager. A lot of these players had experience playing together in Championship together. Loan deals became permanent and there was a great deal of continuity.

We all said on here they would be the surprise team and so it came to pass. The surprise really would have been if they had struggled.
Posted by: wilkij1975

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 07:51 AM

Originally Posted By SSO
Seem to remember Fulham spent something like £120m on "improving" their Championship team.

That worked well!!


Worked well for the peopleís club too grin
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 11:23 AM

Originally Posted By SSO
Wolves had a supply of Portuguese players from a Portuguese agent and they had a Portuguese manager. A lot of these players had experience playing together in Championship together. Loan deals became permanent and there was a great deal of continuity.

We all said on here they would be the surprise team and so it came to pass. The surprise really would have been if they had struggled.


As I said, depends how the money is spent
Posted by: Mr Bojangles

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 12:39 PM

Our first team would be difficult to improve.

When everyone is fit who drops out? Buying top class players and telling them they will make the bench isn't gonna happen. We need players who can improve the bench or replace a first teamer when they get injured.

Our team was poor in the domestic cups last year but with players like

Van den Berg
Adam Lewis
Brewster
Wilson
Kent
Woodburn

All eager to prove themselves we should be ok and it won't disturb the balance of the squad.

I'll be ok if we don't spend anything
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Our first team would be difficult to improve.

When everyone is fit who drops out? Buying top class players and telling them they will make the bench isn't gonna happen. We need players who can improve the bench or replace a first teamer when they get injured.

Our team was poor in the domestic cups last year but with players like

Van den Berg
Adam Lewis
Brewster
Wilson
Kent
Woodburn

All eager to prove themselves we should be ok and it won't disturb the balance of the squad.

I'll be ok if we don't spend anything


I think it would be a major risk if ever Mane and/or Firmino are unfit. City had the better squad and have further improved, so the gap will only widen.
Posted by: Hercules/AF 58

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Our first team would be difficult to improve.

When everyone is fit who drops out? Buying top class players and telling them they will make the bench isn't gonna happen. We need players who can improve the bench or replace a first teamer when they get injured.

Our team was poor in the domestic cups last year but with players like

Van den Berg
Adam Lewis
Brewster
Wilson
Kent
Woodburn

All eager to prove themselves we should be ok and it won't disturb the balance of the squad.

I'll be ok if we don't spend anything

Afraid I can't agree with you there Bo. I would assume we want to win the title in this coming season, however if our competitor who beat us to the title with a stronger squad last season has strengthened, while we decline, what does that say about our ambition?
Adding young potentials in our current situation, is more about moneymaking, than about taking on City for the title, I'm afraid. As things stand our best chance of the title this season is if city slip up and give it to us, personally I'd prefer to win it than be handed it.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 04:56 PM

Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Our first team would be difficult to improve.

When everyone is fit who drops out? Buying top class players and telling them they will make the bench isn't gonna happen. We need players who can improve the bench or replace a first teamer when they get injured.

Our team was poor in the domestic cups last year but with players like

Van den Berg
Adam Lewis
Brewster
Wilson
Kent
Woodburn

All eager to prove themselves we should be ok and it won't disturb the balance of the squad.

I'll be ok if we don't spend anything

Afraid I can't agree with you there Bo. I would assume we want to win the title in this coming season, however if our competitor who beat us to the title with a stronger squad last season has strengthened, while we decline, what does that say about our ambition?
Adding young potentials in our current situation, is more about moneymaking, than about taking on City for the title, I'm afraid. As things stand our best chance of the title this season is if city slip up and give it to us, personally I'd prefer to win it than be handed it.


If we don't strenghen we would have to be very lucky to win the EPL
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 05:28 PM

Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.
Posted by: wilkij1975

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Itís what the defeatist Liverpool fans do. We could make4 signings before the season starts and I bet theyíll still be fukking moaning.

As you said, City have made one signing and heís unproven. Who knows how good heíll be? Who can replace Company?

I want us to strengthen and think we do need to but all is not lost if we donít especially if for the first time in a long time we keep all our best players.
Posted by: Shaggydog

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Spot on sir.

Have people forgotten already the fact that we won The Champions League last season.

Why not let Mr Klopp get on with his job and trust the man.
Posted by: wilkij1975

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Spot on sir.

Have people forgotten already the fact that we won The Champions League last season.

Why not let Mr Klopp get on with his job and trust the man.


Because certain people believe they know better than him.
Posted by: Shaggydog

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Spot on sir.

Have people forgotten already the fact that we won The Champions League last season.

Why not let Mr Klopp get on with his job and trust the man.


Because certain people believe they know better than him.


Excellent, we will have a ready made replacement so when he goes.
Posted by: Mr Bojangles

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 06:45 PM

To say city have improved is a lie. They have brought back a left back. Who they will sell next season anyway.

Rodri no matter how good has to replace Fernandinho who was close to perfect last year.

Theyve also lost Kompany who is a massive influence.

Aguero and Silva are getting a bit older too.

We are not favorites to win the league. The only way we would win it is if man City don't. They're still the bench mark and have gotten nearly 200 points in 2 years.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Kompany didn't play a lot of games out of injury and City also slipped against Palace at home for example, if you call it slip. We won more games than them only just, scoring in the last minutes or so. City will probably get close to 100 pts again like in the last 2 seasons and yes they had/have a much better squad than ours despite having their best player De Bruyn out most of the season. We were lucky that our best players played a majority of games. Yes we can all hope but if we do not reinforce, no way we will win the league. Difficult to bet on a forum, but if possible I would be happy to bet a 100 quids, would you?
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
To say city have improved is a lie. They have brought back a left back. Who they will sell next season anyway.

Rodri no matter how good has to replace Fernandinho who was close to perfect last year.

Theyve also lost Kompany who is a massive influence.

Aguero and Silva are getting a bit older too.

We are not favorites to win the league. The only way we would win it is if man City don't. They're still the bench mark and have gotten nearly 200 points in 2 years.


They lost against Palace and I think Leicester when Fernandinho was out as they didn't have a proper cover because they missed out on Jorginho. This is why they broke their record to buy Rodri, Pep knows what he is doing.
Posted by: ghostgoal

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 07:32 PM

last season we had milner playing right back against Zaha. We had Fabinho playing at CB for a couple of games. We had Gini playing as a striker away against barcelona. We did fantastic last year, no one is denying that, but, we're in MORE competitions this year and City would never been in the situations we were in. Having to "get creative" with team selections as klopp would put it, is all well and good when it pays off but it still represents potential opportunities to drop points and lose games. Seeing as we're in a fantastic position in terms of our attractiveness to prospective players and the additional revenues we've generated, we should be taking this opportunity to strengthen our squad to bridge that gap between us and City. Everyone keeps saying that its only a 1 point difference. It isnt. City won the domestic treble and were a VAR cock-hair away from playing us in the C.L. final. The gap is MUCH bigger than 1 point.
Posted by: wilkij1975

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 07:44 PM

To be fair, when Fab played at CB, we had Gomez, Mario and Lovren all injured. Itís not often that that will happen. Imagine if City had three CBís injured. Theyíd have to get creative too. Any team would.

No one is saying we donít need extra cover. Itís just not the end of the world scenario some would have you believe if we donít though. Not ideal obviously.
Posted by: RedJohn

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 13/07/19 08:23 PM

We're European champions so it's not the end of the world if we don't spend a great deal, however.. we should now be looking to improve when and where we can, 2-3 players a season.

DS and Moreno left. We need LB cover and ideally a striker. If Coutinho's available, we should try for him at the right price.
Likewise a CB. Matip had a good few games, but if better is available, which it surely is, and we have the money, which we surely do, why wouldn't we want another CB close to en par with VvD?

I believe the biggest priority is a striker/front 3. No top team has such a drop in quality after one of the front 2-3 is injured. They wouldn't be asked to 'sit on the bench', they'd be rotated in numerous competitions.
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 08:11 AM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Kompany didn't play a lot of games out of injury and City also slipped against Palace at home for example, if you call it slip. We won more games than them only just, scoring in the last minutes or so. City will probably get close to 100 pts again like in the last 2 seasons and yes they had/have a much better squad than ours despite having their best player De Bruyn out most of the season. We were lucky that our best players played a majority of games. Yes we can all hope but if we do not reinforce, no way we will win the league. Difficult to bet on a forum, but if possible I would be happy to bet a 100 quids, would you?


I am a betting man but I like a level playing field which we don't have with FFP not working.

You always state thread after thread after thread City have the better squad. Whilst I accept we score a lot of late late goals there is also a reason for that. Probably that we train harder and are ready for 90 minutes plus. It is not luck. Surely you must accept that?

I agree that Kompany didn't play much but he only played 59 times in the last 4 PL seasons. 17 times in each of the last 2 seasons compared to 11 and 14 in the 2 seasons prior to that. As captain he is going to be as missed for them as Gerrard was for us.

As for 100 points I think at the moment that is the minimum target. We know we are capable of GREAT things. 97 points and a CL win are proof of that. We should not be worried about what City will do or what they can do.
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 08:29 AM

Originally Posted By wilkij1975
To be fair, when Fab played at CB, we had Gomez, Mario and Lovren all injured. Itís not often that that will happen. Imagine if City had three CBís injured. Theyíd have to get creative too. Any team would.

No one is saying we donít need extra cover. Itís just not the end of the world scenario some would have you believe if we donít though. Not ideal obviously.


When City had lots of players missing they called on Delph. He played at full back when they lost v Palace and then Leicester. A real shame he got sent off v Leicester because he was suspended for the next game at Southampton where they survived a couple of scares. This is why I don't believe they are really that far ahead of us.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 09:36 AM

Originally Posted By SSO
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Kompany didn't play a lot of games out of injury and City also slipped against Palace at home for example, if you call it slip. We won more games than them only just, scoring in the last minutes or so. City will probably get close to 100 pts again like in the last 2 seasons and yes they had/have a much better squad than ours despite having their best player De Bruyn out most of the season. We were lucky that our best players played a majority of games. Yes we can all hope but if we do not reinforce, no way we will win the league. Difficult to bet on a forum, but if possible I would be happy to bet a 100 quids, would you?


I am a betting man but I like a level playing field which we don't have with FFP not working.

You always state thread after thread after thread City have the better squad. Whilst I accept we score a lot of late late goals there is also a reason for that. Probably that we train harder and are ready for 90 minutes plus. It is not luck. Surely you must accept that?

I agree that Kompany didn't play much but he only played 59 times in the last 4 PL seasons. 17 times in each of the last 2 seasons compared to 11 and 14 in the 2 seasons prior to that. As captain he is going to be as missed for them as Gerrard was for us.

As for 100 points I think at the moment that is the minimum target. We know we are capable of GREAT things. 97 points and a CL win are proof of that. We should not be worried about what City will do or what they can do.


They broke their record transfer price to buy the midfield, so I can only assume he is good, though there are exceptions, usually good players come at a price. I am not sure, are you saying City doesn't have a better squad than ours?
Posted by: ecnirp98

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Kompany didn't play a lot of games out of injury and City also slipped against Palace at home for example, if you call it slip. We won more games than them only just, scoring in the last minutes or so. City will probably get close to 100 pts again like in the last 2 seasons and yes they had/have a much better squad than ours despite having their best player De Bruyn out most of the season. We were lucky that our best players played a majority of games. Yes we can all hope but if we do not reinforce, no way we will win the league. Difficult to bet on a forum, but if possible I would be happy to bet a 100 quids, would you?


I am a betting man but I like a level playing field which we don't have with FFP not working.

You always state thread after thread after thread City have the better squad. Whilst I accept we score a lot of late late goals there is also a reason for that. Probably that we train harder and are ready for 90 minutes plus. It is not luck. Surely you must accept that?

I agree that Kompany didn't play much but he only played 59 times in the last 4 PL seasons. 17 times in each of the last 2 seasons compared to 11 and 14 in the 2 seasons prior to that. As captain he is going to be as missed for them as Gerrard was for us.

As for 100 points I think at the moment that is the minimum target. We know we are capable of GREAT things. 97 points and a CL win are proof of that. We should not be worried about what City will do or what they can do.


They broke their record transfer price to buy the midfield, so I can only assume he is good, though there are exceptions, usually good players come at a price. I am not sure, are you saying City doesn't have a better squad than ours?


I think City will be slightly weaker this season, Kompany has left, I know he didn't play too many games, but he was a key player for Pep, look at how he brought him in for the run-in, just knowing he's around gives the team a lift, similar to how we were with Gerrard.

Fernandinho, Aguero & Silva are a year older, they are at an age now where they could go over a cliff at any time, they have been great players, but to play a full PL season takes it out of them. Saying that, they are still a great squad with strength in depth.

Klopp seems to be happy with the players coming back (Ox & Gomez) plus the injection of youth from the likes of Brewster & Wilson, so I think we are stronger than last season already, without making a signing.

My concern is if we lose a key player like a Mane or Firminho, we do not seem to have the quality to come in and replace them at the same level, Klopp seems to have identified Brewster as being ready to step up to that role, so we will see.

Also, I can see City targetting the CL this season, I work with a few City fans and they were saying they wanted back to back PL titles last season, as that shows a great team, previously they have dropped off the season after winning the PL, so I can see Pep and the owners really going for the CL now, it could be Pep's last season.

Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO
Technically in a tight race it is usually a slip up somewhere that costs one or other team the title.

Had Brighton got a draw v City somehow that would have been a slip up by them.

Most on here would still have said City best team City best squad blah blah blah.

You get 97 points and everyone is looking to where it was lost. This season 4 weeks from kick off and everyone is getting the knives out already.

It's pathetic.

City have strengthened by one midfield player. This guy has to play pretty well before I could accept they have strengthened significantly.

Don't forget they have lost Kompany. That guy is worth 6 points a year in games he should have got sent off in alone.


Kompany didn't play a lot of games out of injury and City also slipped against Palace at home for example, if you call it slip. We won more games than them only just, scoring in the last minutes or so. City will probably get close to 100 pts again like in the last 2 seasons and yes they had/have a much better squad than ours despite having their best player De Bruyn out most of the season. We were lucky that our best players played a majority of games. Yes we can all hope but if we do not reinforce, no way we will win the league. Difficult to bet on a forum, but if possible I would be happy to bet a 100 quids, would you?


I am a betting man but I like a level playing field which we don't have with FFP not working.

You always state thread after thread after thread City have the better squad. Whilst I accept we score a lot of late late goals there is also a reason for that. Probably that we train harder and are ready for 90 minutes plus. It is not luck. Surely you must accept that?

I agree that Kompany didn't play much but he only played 59 times in the last 4 PL seasons. 17 times in each of the last 2 seasons compared to 11 and 14 in the 2 seasons prior to that. As captain he is going to be as missed for them as Gerrard was for us.

As for 100 points I think at the moment that is the minimum target. We know we are capable of GREAT things. 97 points and a CL win are proof of that. We should not be worried about what City will do or what they can do.


They broke their record transfer price to buy the midfield, so I can only assume he is good, though there are exceptions, usually good players come at a price. I am not sure, are you saying City doesn't have a better squad than ours?


No I am not saying their squad is better. There really isn't much in it all round. Their squad could still not cope with back to back defeats. We lost one PL game all season and in that game the ball didn't cross the line by 11mm and their captain should have got a red card. Perhaps we lost that game because our weak link was playing in the back 4 and got turned by Aguero in the box. It looks a better squad because they have £50m players on the bench but I wouldn't take Jesus for free and Mahrez is hit and miss.

I don't admire other teams. Unfortunately a lot of players and managers in the PL do and they give City too much rope by fielding under strength teams and letting City attack at will in order to keep the score down.

It is a close run thing all round. I wouldn't take any of their players over any of ours. Both teams play different football. Both get results. They only won the two cups because they were not severely tested by playing lower league teams.
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 05:00 PM

Originally Posted By SSO


No I am not saying their squad is better. There really isn't much in it all round. Their squad could still not cope with back to back defeats. We lost one PL game all season and in that game the ball didn't cross the line by 11mm and their captain should have got a red card. Perhaps we lost that game because our weak link was playing in the back 4 and got turned by Aguero in the box. It looks a better squad because they have £50m players on the bench but I wouldn't take Jesus for free and Mahrez is hit and miss.

I don't admire other teams. Unfortunately a lot of players and managers in the PL do and they give City too much rope by fielding under strength teams and letting City attack at will in order to keep the score down.

It is a close run thing all round. I wouldn't take any of their players over any of ours. Both teams play different football. Both get results. They only won the two cups because they were not severely tested by playing lower league teams.


De Bruyn is better than any of our midfielders for me, who in our midfield you would say is better? I also think that the gap would more than 1 point if he was fit more often. David Silva is also better than any of our attacking midfielders.
Posted by: AccaBoosty

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO


No I am not saying their squad is better. There really isn't much in it all round. Their squad could still not cope with back to back defeats. We lost one PL game all season and in that game the ball didn't cross the line by 11mm and their captain should have got a red card. Perhaps we lost that game because our weak link was playing in the back 4 and got turned by Aguero in the box. It looks a better squad because they have £50m players on the bench but I wouldn't take Jesus for free and Mahrez is hit and miss.

I don't admire other teams. Unfortunately a lot of players and managers in the PL do and they give City too much rope by fielding under strength teams and letting City attack at will in order to keep the score down.

It is a close run thing all round. I wouldn't take any of their players over any of ours. Both teams play different football. Both get results. They only won the two cups because they were not severely tested by playing lower league teams.


De Bruyn is better than any of our midfielders for me, who in our midfield you would say is better? I also think that the gap would more than 1 point if he was fit more often. David Silva is also better than any of our attacking midfielders.


As I said I wouldn't take any of them. We play a different brand of football. Our goals come from different areas.

Love to know how De Bruyne being fit more often would have made the gap more than 1 point. HE PLAYED IN 3 OF THE 4 PL MATCHES THEY LOST !!!
Posted by: EnergisedReds

Re: Aston Villa £100m spend - 14/07/19 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By SSO
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By SSO


No I am not saying their squad is better. There really isn't much in it all round. Their squad could still not cope with back to back defeats. We lost one PL game all season and in that game the ball didn't cross the line by 11mm and their captain should have got a red card. Perhaps we lost that game because our weak link was playing in the back 4 and got turned by Aguero in the box. It looks a better squad because they have £50m players on the bench but I wouldn't take Jesus for free and Mahrez is hit and miss.

I don't admire other teams. Unfortunately a lot of players and managers in the PL do and they give City too much rope by fielding under strength teams and letting City attack at will in order to keep the score down.

It is a close run thing all round. I wouldn't take any of their players over any of ours. Both teams play different football. Both get results. They only won the two cups because they were not severely tested by playing lower league teams.


De Bruyn is better than any of our midfielders for me, who in our midfield you would say is better? I also think that the gap would more than 1 point if he was fit more often. David Silva is also better than any of our attacking midfielders.


As I said I wouldn't take any of them. We play a different brand of football. Our goals come from different areas.

Love to know how De Bruyne being fit more often would have made the gap more than 1 point. HE PLAYED IN 3 OF THE 4 PL MATCHES THEY LOST !!!


Well, players take some time to get to their best after a long injury, don't you think?