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So looks like Uefa have put a limit on of 3rd August..............

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/04/ue...-cancel-season/

When they say a completion date of 3rd August, is that to complete each League, Like PL/Serie A/La Liga/Bundesliga etc? so if they are not done by that date they are cancelled? typical Uefa giving half the info...

It really is guess work ATM when we will resume, predictions on the virus are based on computer models and experience of CHona, whoch is not to be relied upon IMO.

Most PL teams have 10 games to play, so even if you say 2 games a week (Sat/Wed) and forget everything else like FA Cup/CL/Europa etc, that's 5 weeks, so working back from August 3rd your talking starting playing 3rd week of June, before that players have to get fit/train etc, so it's going to be close if the Virus does stop spreading/infecting and runs out ......

I didn’t think uefa could tell the EPL when it had to finish?

And as I’ve said times before, no point in setting a time in this season if there’s no guarantee that next season will start on time. It’ll just be a waste of two seasons.

UEFA can request/advise, as the leagues play in Uefa competitions, so they set the rules that the leagues follow to play in CL etc.

So Uefa could ban City from CL but not the PL, but PL would find it hard to ignore Uefa guidance/rulings, as they could kick PL teams out of European Competitions etc, all leagues follow the same timetables pretty much for start/end of season.


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It's a worry UEFA have put a completion date on it, rather than saying the current leagues must complete before new ones start ......

I'm guessing UEFA want an end to the season August 3rd to give the next season a delayed start in September, they may have a shorter summer break as the players are having a long mid season break of a few months now really, to finish next season for the Euro's summer 2021

There’s no certainty that the new season can start in August or even as early as September. There’s absolutely no point putting an arbitrary end date in this season before knowing if the next can even start let alone start on time. All UEFA care about is losing money.

And how do you sort out who is where? Voiding the season after so much of it has finished isn’t an option as isn’t fair on enough teams to be viable.

UEFA obviously want a full CL programme next season and will be using things like no Internationals to their advantage. As big as Euro 2021 is the CL is much bigger.

Sounds like UEFA want it all.

Such a move will bring about the scrapping of the League Cup here for next season at least and also the Johnstones Paint or CheckaTrade Trophy or whatever it is. That will go. All FA Cup games will get settled in one game, no replays, maybe no extra time. Might just go straight to pens.

I agree, there is no certainty, but UEFA have decided to put a line in the sand in effect, by the looks of it, they are saying to the leagues that they must be completed by 3rd August, whatever they do, whether it is behind closed doors/awarding positions as they stand/playing some sort of tournament like play offs etc, they want the leagues completed this season by then, so they can start the new leagues for 2020-2021, followed by the Euros, that's how it appears.

The next PL meeting will be interesting, as they will have to react to UEFA's decision, this is driven by money from TV and sponsors, if the leagues are completed, the TV companies and sponsors cannot complain as the leagues have completed their contractual obligation I guess, then they start afresh for 2020-2021 league as normal (if the virus has gone).

Wimbledon has just been cancelled, that's the end of June to middle of July, if they cannot play there, with much smaller and easier to handle crowds, there is no chance football will start in that time frame either.

Different type of fan ecnirp, Wimbledon is the prawn sarnies, hoity-toity toffs with money who go there more as a statement rather than to watch the tennis. You couldn't exactly do Wimbledon behind closed doors without seeing Batchelor Boy, Light in his Loafers - Cliff Richard in his turned up collars and turned up cuffs.

What an ignorant post. I know plenty of people who have been, some go regularly and none are as you describe.

It’s a pointless line without knowing for sure when we can start again. If we can’t start playing again until September, October or later for example then you’ve potentially got two seasons ruined. This is all about money and greed and not what’s best for the game.

It does seem a pointless line when different Countries are at different stages with the virus. UEFA are also clearly over stepping their boundaries even if the language they're using is suggestion. They could have teleconferenced with the various Associations instead of releasing a press statement...it comes across as bullying.

I agree.
It's not much different to the leagues below National League level being scrapped for the season. These are actions or suggestions that are designed to test the water, gain momentum or
support, or as you imply, to bully others into falling into place for their needs.

Smaller?
They have somewhere in the region of 40k people a day to contend with over a site much bigger than a football stadium. Easier to handle maybe because of the type of people who go there and that's not just well to do people. They cannot play behind closed doors as that would still mean 3k to 4k people on site. Players, coaches, officials, groundstaff, ball boys, umpires, line judges, tv crews, canteen staff. It all adds up. The event is outdoors and reliant on the weather and daylight so cannot be moved easily either. Even by a couple of weeks.

Football time frame is different. We can play in all weathers, behind closed doors if necessary.

UEFA will only do what is in their interest which will usually be due to some sort of financial/power benefit.

It's the same as with the European Super League, they want it, nobody else does, so they will push it as much as possible.

Similar story with the Nations League (which I think has been good actually). They want more power/more money.

Again the same with FIFA pushing the club world cup.

Also why can't games be played behind closed doors if possible? It's not ideal by any means but by heck I would rather than than no title.

Smaller as in some PL games can have 50,000+ people, combined average that could be 500,000 fans a weekend at PL games only.

PL Football also has similar associated people on matchday in attendance - Stewards/TV Crews/Officials/Caterers/Police/Medical/Club Staff etc, so if Wimbledon cannot hand this in July for a 3 week tournament, how can football do it for 6 weeks?

I guess the fear is fans will still gather around the stadium areas, even behind closed doors, one idea I heard the other day was to play the games in Qatar, at least the fans can't travel there !

Because it is over many different smaller sites. Wimbledon you are talking about one venue for 14 days. Each PL ground would be used 5 times maximum. Yes some are bigger than Wimbledon but many are much smaller. Yes staffing is similar but nowhere near the same amount of people to oversee football behind closed doors compared to tennis bcd.

So why wasn't Wimbledon continued BCD?

Because there would still be hundreds of people involved to put it on and it falls under the same umbrella as other sports that have been cancelled. For example horse racing is all off and your average midweek racing at Southwell or Ffos Las doesn't attract many people at all. The idea is to limit as many people as possible to travelling around and passing this deadly virus around. They took an early decision and next year when the tournament is back it will be like it never went away and the clamour for tickets will be as big as ever.

Also the costs to stage it could not be met without paying public. The event is now one of two top sporting events (along with World Snooker) the BBC has in its portfolio apart from the Olympics which is every 4 years. Wimbledon needs 40k people and the concessions every day for 2 weeks to pay the prize money. Football as we already know can actually exist without the huge ticket price. Look at the Bundesliga. £15 to watch top flight games and they don't have the TV revenue we have here.

The fact that we can't even get started in early May now is a warning to other sports and Wimbledon have taken the correct decision to postpone the event this year.

The European domestic leagues are not going to be finished. Olympics and Wimbledon canceled - and there won't be any football either. The only decision to be made is whether to void this year's league, finish the season as per the current points total (and relegated clubs will sue), or find some other way of awarding points for the remaining fixtures (again, relegated clubs will sue). It's a mess but the games won't get played. If there's a second wave this autumn then next year might be affected too.