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#628891 - 04/11/19 09:39 AM Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO
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The most important game of The 2019/20 PL season so far.

After the weekend's almost mirrored result for both teams it is Liverpool who come into this game with more optimism. Man City have another casualty to add to their injured list in David Silva to add to the likes of Laporte, Sane, Zinchenko and Rodri. Silva picked up a muscle injury in their game v Southampton and Pep explained that anything muscular more often then not leads to at least a 10 to 12 day spell on the sidelines. Fixtures are also on Liverpool's side here with City travelling to Italy to play Atalanta in the CL on Wednesday, Liverpool stay at home for what should be a comfortable game against Genk on Tuesday, giving them a further day's rest to prepare for City.

Pep was also quick to start the mind games after their 2 v 1 win v Southampton, putting his boot into probably our most consistent player so far this season - Mane. Pep suggested that Mane dives too much and that his team will have to be aware of that! It shows Pep is a little nervous about Mane and what he could do to their patched up defence if given the chance.

Judging on recent head to heads for this game City are the ones with the better record, however they haven't beaten Liverpool at Anfield for 16 years - 2003.

This game should be a belter with City wanting to bridge the 6 point gap on us. Hopefully Klopp has a good week on the lead up to this game with no setbacks.

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#628921 - 05/11/19 10:47 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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quite chilled over this game. Its early season if we win great but my worry is the press will be in overdrive saying this is Liverpool's season putting great pressure on us. I hope we win but a draw would be just fine
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#628924 - 05/11/19 04:17 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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A last minute winner from a Salah dive would be nice.
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#628933 - 05/11/19 05:53 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: lumba]
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Originally Posted By lumba
A last minute winner from a Salah dive would be nice.


no, it wouldn't
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#628945 - 05/11/19 09:16 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Better than a last minute dive from Sterling that gives Citeh a winning pen.

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#628952 - 06/11/19 07:37 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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The fact Gomez played last night gives me hope that he will start against City.

If lovren starts we are finished

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#628957 - 06/11/19 09:03 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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I wasn't too impressed with our backline last night, they got caught out several times by Genk, especially in the area that Gomez was supposed to be commanding. Judged on last night's performance against Lovren's recent performances, I think Klopp will use Lovren on Sunday.

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#628961 - 06/11/19 10:10 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Neither Gomez nor Lovern fill me with confidence unfortunately. No doubt City will target our right side, so while I'm optimistic of a narrow win, I'm not confident. We're leaking at the back again and it's a worry. Also our front players aren't exactly on song either, so I'm expecting something of a slogging match. I'd reluctantly settle for a draw, but we need to play for the win.

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#628979 - 06/11/19 09:31 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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We have:

1 world class cb (VvD)
1 young cb (Gomez)
1 injury prone cb (Matip)
1 nerve wreck (Lovren)

No wonder we are a bit shaky at the moment with Matip being out.

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#628994 - 07/11/19 09:47 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Bloody-hell...we're one behind,
The clock screams eighty plus,
And we still have a brace to find,
While they have parked the bus.....

Bloody-hell...we pulled be back,
Two points swing in the wind,
Our keeper's joined with attack,
And me ticker's all but binned....

Bloody-hell it's the ninety fifth
And our monsters finally scored,
Klopp is like the scheming zith,
And I am finally floored....!

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#628995 - 07/11/19 09:50 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Klopp and the players must have gotten some extra pointers and motivation from last night's Atlanta v City game. I must admit though on the replays that Atalanta player dived and Bravo did nothing wrong. I was shocked when they upheld the red card decision after VAR.

One thing is certain if Bravo plays against us, that City defence are going to be nervous, he was allover the place yesterday. He kept trying to dribble the ball out and playing the ball with his feet on the ground instead of doing it simple. There was one moment he flew out of his goal, must have been 10 to 15 yds out the area to head the ball away.

Ederson's injury is a muscular thigh strain, similar to the one that kept Alisson out for nearly 2 months. Salah, Mane and Bobby better be prepared to chase Bravo down at every given opportunity on Sunday (if he plays?) because it will be the catalyst to us winning the game!

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#628996 - 07/11/19 09:51 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Hercules/AF 58]
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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Bloody-hell...we're one behind,
The clock screams eighty plus,
And we still have a brace to find,
While they have parked the bus.....

Bloody-hell...we pulled be back,
Two points swing in the wind,
Our keeper's joined with attack,
And me ticker's all but binned....

Bloody-hell it's the ninety fifth
And our monsters finally scored,
Klopp is like the scheming zith,
And I am finally floored....!


You mean lightening striking twice the same spot? Didn't we just had that against Villa

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#629000 - 07/11/19 12:09 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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We seem to have had it all bloody season so far....me nerves are shot to hell, I just hope we can score a couple early for once this season, as we seem to be coming from behind in bloody injury time every game...or is it just my imagination...probably is...

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#629004 - 07/11/19 02:27 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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For once, the pressure is all on them, Sunday. We win, and we'll take some stopping. Draw is almost as good. A loss would be annoying, but with their next few league games I wouldn't be too flustered.

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#629006 - 07/11/19 02:28 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
Klopp and the players must have gotten some extra pointers and motivation from last night's Atlanta v City game. I must admit though on the replays that Atalanta player dived and Bravo did nothing wrong. I was shocked when they upheld the red card decision after VAR.

One thing is certain if Bravo plays against us, that City defence are going to be nervous, he was allover the place yesterday. He kept trying to dribble the ball out and playing the ball with his feet on the ground instead of doing it simple. There was one moment he flew out of his goal, must have been 10 to 15 yds out the area to head the ball away.

Ederson's injury is a muscular thigh strain, similar to the one that kept Alisson out for nearly 2 months. Salah, Mane and Bobby better be prepared to chase Bravo down at every given opportunity on Sunday (if he plays?) because it will be the catalyst to us winning the game!


Ederson is likely to start. Alisson's was a calf injury, and Ederson was just taken off as a precaution.

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#629010 - 07/11/19 03:18 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
Klopp and the players must have gotten some extra pointers and motivation from last night's Atlanta v City game. I must admit though on the replays that Atalanta player dived and Bravo did nothing wrong. I was shocked when they upheld the red card decision after VAR.

One thing is certain if Bravo plays against us, that City defence are going to be nervous, he was allover the place yesterday. He kept trying to dribble the ball out and playing the ball with his feet on the ground instead of doing it simple. There was one moment he flew out of his goal, must have been 10 to 15 yds out the area to head the ball away.

Ederson's injury is a muscular thigh strain, similar to the one that kept Alisson out for nearly 2 months. Salah, Mane and Bobby better be prepared to chase Bravo down at every given opportunity on Sunday (if he plays?) because it will be the catalyst to us winning the game!


I know you are hoping but doesn't work like that like against United when they lost 3 players due to injury in the first half last season. I prefer we just play our game with full energy as we did against Barca

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#629070 - 09/11/19 06:44 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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It can't be described as a must win, but it certainly is a six pointer which we should win. We're at home with a virtual full selection available, while they have a number of first choice players out, that's an edge, but only just considering their squad strength. I'm optimist we can win this one, but only if we rise to the occasion. I'd play the old reliables in midfield in the hope they work hard and press hard, giving city's players no time or space, else they'll likely take us apart going up their left side. TAA and Lovern will have to put in a mighty and flawless effort, if we're to keep them out for 90+ minutes.
I'm going for 2 - 1 and a significant victory. Come on ye brilliant Red's! YNWA.

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#629081 - 10/11/19 10:58 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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I'd call Matip being out an essential setback.

So as you say Lovren and TAA need to produce their very finest displays tonight.

Fab, Hendo and Gini in midfield I'd say be our best way to start the game.

If it gets squeeky bum time towards the end I'd throw Milner in to shore things up.

If we need to put pressure on for a goal I'd stick Ox and maybe Keita on for Gini and Hendo.

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#629083 - 10/11/19 12:15 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Michael Oliver is the Ref today, our record is not great in big games with him in charge.

Against City:

19/03/17 - Man City 1 v 1 Liverpool

28/02/16 - Man City 1 v 1 Liverpool - League Cup Final City won 4 v 2 on pens

25/08/14 - Man City 3 v 1 Liverpool

v United we have had 2 draws and a loss and v Everton we have had 2 draws whilst Oliver has been in charge.

I'm hoping we fair better today at Anfield because only one of the games above has been at Anfield a 1 v 1 draw v Everton back in 2013.

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#629084 - 10/11/19 12:34 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: van Gogh]
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Originally Posted By van Gogh
I'd call Matip being out an essential setback.

So as you say Lovren and TAA need to produce their very finest displays tonight.

Fab, Hendo and Gini in midfield I'd say be our best way to start the game.

If it gets squeeky bum time towards the end I'd throw Milner in to shore things up.

If we need to put pressure on for a goal I'd stick Ox and maybe Keita on for Gini and Hendo.

Yes that's how I see it too, if we need a goal, Spring either or both of OX and Keita from the bench in or around 60/70 minutes. Klopp is inclined to leave these things lateish, so I hope he doesn't today. If subs are needed, and I'd expect they will, what with likely fatigue to Henderson and/or Wijnaldum. That's if they're doing their pressing and harrying job properly. Fingers crossed no injuries arise.


Edited by Hercules/AF 58 (10/11/19 12:37 PM)

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#629087 - 10/11/19 02:57 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Indeed.

I as just thinking of red cards aswell.

Might be time for one of those tonight? Hope it's not our turn though.

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#629089 - 10/11/19 03:32 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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LIVERPOOL: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Henderson, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

SUBS: Adrian, Gomez, Milner, Keita, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Origi.

CITY: Bravo, Walker, Stones, Fernandinho, Angelino, Rodrigo, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Sterling, Aguero.

SUBS: Carson, Jesus, Silva, Mahrez, Cancelo, Otamendi, Foden.

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#629091 - 10/11/19 03:47 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Dunk]
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Originally Posted By Dunk
LIVERPOOL: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Henderson, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

SUBS: Adrian, Gomez, Milner, Keita, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Origi.

CITY: Bravo, Walker, Stones, Fernandinho, Angelino, Rodrigo, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Sterling, Aguero.

SUBS: Carson, Jesus, Silva, Mahrez, Cancelo, Otamendi, Foden.


Hopefully Lovren makes us proud


Edited by EnergisedReds (10/11/19 03:47 PM)

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#629092 - 10/11/19 05:28 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Could easily be losing this.

Still not confident. We need a third.

Regarding the pen the ball came off Silva's hand/arm and then hit TAA so you can't give a pen unless you give us a free kick first?

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#629093 - 10/11/19 06:25 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Mr Bojangles]
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Lovren was flawless

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#629094 - 10/11/19 06:26 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Lovren was flawless


He's a player I really dislike. But he was immense.

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#629096 - 10/11/19 07:08 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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With VVD martialing the defence he has improved those around him leaps and bounds, Lovren now is playing well just like Matip has been and last season prior to his injury Gomez.

We were ruthless today with our chances and deserved the win on balance of play.

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#629098 - 11/11/19 02:35 AM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
With VVD martialing the defence he has improved those around him leaps and bounds, Lovren now is playing well just like Matip has been and last season prior to his injury Gomez.

We were ruthless today with our chances and deserved the win on balance of play.


Of course we deserved our win by being more clinical

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#629102 - 11/11/19 12:14 PM Re: Liverpool v Man City PL - Sun 10th Nov 4.30PM KO [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Pickles
With VVD martialing the defence he has improved those around him leaps and bounds, Lovren now is playing well just like Matip has been and last season prior to his injury Gomez.

We were ruthless today with our chances and deserved the win on balance of play.


Of course we deserved our win by being more clinical


Yep and the second goal made them panic even more. They emptied out really. Aguero ran all day for nothing. They got a bit of a second wind at 3-1 but the tired minds showed and we closed out easily.

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