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#627619 - 24/09/19 05:24 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
Forcing parliament back into session does nothing to help remainers other than expose their hypocrisy, the clueless backasswardness of Labour's promise to negotiate a Deal and then campaign against it, and the LibDems blatant and shrill anti-democracy. The corrupt and biased Supreme Court, the intransigent Juncker, the shrill yapping of the self-important Varadkar, the posturing of the irrelevant Macron--- all has the same effect. It all pushes BoJo and the government to give two fingers to the whole lot, erase any vestiges of inclination to compromise, and increase the chances of a Clean No Deal Brexit.


Is there anyone you don't dislike?

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#627624 - 24/09/19 06:16 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Shaggydog]
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Nothing was more certain the courts would find against Johnson the courts to my knowledge have never found in favour or brexit and opposed it on every case. They are working with the speaker and remain parliament.

However ironically this could work for Johnson assuming he does not resign. He can position himself as on the side of the people vs the establishment

Sure the left and remainers will be crowing today but they might not be in future when the courts and the establishment find against their democratic aims given they have fundamentally changed how our governance operates all in a desperate bid to overturn the publics vote. There are a lot of very angry people in Britain tonight

That won't harm johnsons chances in an election and remain parliament cannot block an election forever
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#627628 - 24/09/19 06:30 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Nothing was more certain the courts would find against Johnson the courts to my knowledge have never found in favour or brexit and opposed it on every case. They are working with the speaker and remain parliament.

However ironically this could work for Johnson assuming he does not resign. He can position himself as on the side of the people vs the establishment

Sure the left and remainers will be crowing today but they might not be in future when the courts and the establishment find against their democratic aims given they have fundamentally changed how our governance operates all in a desperate bid to overturn the publics vote. There are a lot of very angry people in Britain tonight

That won't harm johnsons chances in an election and remain parliament cannot block an election forever
Nope,just you.
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#627629 - 24/09/19 06:32 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Nothing was more certain the courts would find against Johnson the courts to my knowledge have never found in favour or brexit and opposed it on every case. They are working with the speaker and remain parliament.

However ironically this could work for Johnson assuming he does not resign. He can position himself as on the side of the people vs the establishment

Sure the left and remainers will be crowing today but they might not be in future when the courts and the establishment find against their democratic aims given they have fundamentally changed how our governance operates all in a desperate bid to overturn the publics vote. There are a lot of very angry people in Britain tonight

That won't harm johnsons chances in an election and remain parliament cannot block an election forever


Are you saying the judges of your supreme court are not neutral? Do you really think everybody is against the Brexiters? Do you know that only 34% of the voters actually voted for Brexit, does this represent the people? I think emotions are disturbing your vision, seriously. The best thing that can happen to your country is a new referendum on 2 rounds with 3 options, no deal, negotiated deal and no Brexit can't see a general election solving the issue, there is a bigger probability of another hung parliament. Can't see first time / young voters going for no deal Tories.

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#627631 - 24/09/19 06:37 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Shaggydog]
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It was probably the fault of the younger voter who can't be arsed to vote that put us into this mess in the first place.
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#627641 - 24/09/19 07:11 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Nothing was more certain the courts would find against Johnson the courts to my knowledge have never found in favour or brexit and opposed it on every case. They are working with the speaker and remain parliament.

However ironically this could work for Johnson assuming he does not resign. He can position himself as on the side of the people vs the establishment

Sure the left and remainers will be crowing today but they might not be in future when the courts and the establishment find against their democratic aims given they have fundamentally changed how our governance operates all in a desperate bid to overturn the publics vote. There are a lot of very angry people in Britain tonight

That won't harm johnsons chances in an election and remain parliament cannot block an election forever


So it's all a conspiracy and even your supreme court is in on the act.

I am sure a lot of people are angry at the fact that yet again their PM has been shown to be exceptionally economical with the truth.

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#627651 - 24/09/19 08:02 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Shaggydog]
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The Supreme Court is a very unBritish and unDemocratic very recent institution from the Tony Blair era. Setup in 2005 designed to realign Britain’s old-established legal system as Blair is the one who made it into an EU friendly model and with it the leftist agenda. The decision today is borderline tyrannical made by unrepresentative, unaccountable people who have now presumed the authority to strike down actual government decisions. This weakens any future government’s claim to moral and political authority and their basic ability to relate to parliament, to negotiate treaties, and to act on the will of the people. UK Citizens are now hostages and their vote means diddly squat!

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#627652 - 24/09/19 08:13 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: lumba]
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Originally Posted By lumba
It was probably the fault of the younger voter who can't be arsed to vote that put us into this mess in the first place.


Well weren’t they the age group with the smallest turn out in the referendum? Then the biggest whingers that it didn’t go ‘their’ way.

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#627653 - 24/09/19 08:18 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Nothing was more certain the courts would find against Johnson the courts to my knowledge have never found in favour or brexit and opposed it on every case. They are working with the speaker and remain parliament.

However ironically this could work for Johnson assuming he does not resign. He can position himself as on the side of the people vs the establishment

Sure the left and remainers will be crowing today but they might not be in future when the courts and the establishment find against their democratic aims given they have fundamentally changed how our governance operates all in a desperate bid to overturn the publics vote. There are a lot of very angry people in Britain tonight

That won't harm johnsons chances in an election and remain parliament cannot block an election forever


So it's all a conspiracy and even your supreme court is in on the act.

I am sure a lot of people are angry at the fact that yet again their PM has been shown to be exceptionally economical with the truth.



I think people will be angry because yet again this farce is going to be prolonged. People will be angry as parliament seem more interested in their own gains than what people voted for. I could go on but I’d be here all night listing the things that people could be angry about with this shower of turds.

Of course people like yourself who’ve never brought themselves to accept the vote will be jumping for joy but most of the people I know, remainers or leavers, just want this finished for the good of the country. Yes yes. No one knew what they voted for I know.

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#627654 - 24/09/19 09:11 PM Re: Bojo's proroguing of parliament was unlawful [Re: wilkij1975]
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Nothing was more certain the courts would find against Johnson the courts to my knowledge have never found in favour or brexit and opposed it on every case. They are working with the speaker and remain parliament.

However ironically this could work for Johnson assuming he does not resign. He can position himself as on the side of the people vs the establishment

Sure the left and remainers will be crowing today but they might not be in future when the courts and the establishment find against their democratic aims given they have fundamentally changed how our governance operates all in a desperate bid to overturn the publics vote. There are a lot of very angry people in Britain tonight

That won't harm johnsons chances in an election and remain parliament cannot block an election forever


So it's all a conspiracy and even your supreme court is in on the act.

I am sure a lot of people are angry at the fact that yet again their PM has been shown to be exceptionally economical with the truth.



I think people will be angry because yet again this farce is going to be prolonged. People will be angry as parliament seem more interested in their own gains than what people voted for. I could go on but I’d be here all night listing the things that people could be angry about with this shower of turds.

Of course people like yourself who’ve never brought themselves to accept the vote will be jumping for joy but most of the people I know, remainers or leavers, just want this finished for the good of the country. Yes yes. No one knew what they voted for I know.


Why do people who voted remain now have to accept leaving with No Deal?

Also how is leaving with No Deal going to be for the good of the country.

No one mentioned No Deal before the referendum. Easiest deal in history anyone?

If people want to get angry then get angry with the tories. This is their creation, no one else's.

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