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#627300 - 11/09/19 08:58 PM Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...mptions_CDL.pdf

Shockingly scary stuff..................

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#627301 - 11/09/19 09:39 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Only telling us what we already know. That is that thereís a lot of things that COULD or MAY happen.

We all know no deal isnít the best option by far but it beats the muck weíre livimg through now.

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#627302 - 11/09/19 10:56 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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tell that to the single mums who won't be able to feed their kids

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#627304 - 12/09/19 02:11 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
tell that to the single mums who won't be able to feed their kids


Isn't it a risk worth taking for freedom?

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#627305 - 12/09/19 06:19 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
tell that to the single mums who won't be able to feed their kids


Thereís people in that situation now unfortunately so whatís new?

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#627306 - 12/09/19 09:48 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.
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#627309 - 12/09/19 10:55 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Yep, the worst case scenario is in the event of a no deal which if I am not mistaken you prefer than asking for an extension, no?

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#627310 - 12/09/19 10:58 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Itíd be nice to see the best case scenario for once wouldnít it.

Anyway, Iím off to get my grab bag ready.


Edited by wilkij1975 (12/09/19 10:59 AM)

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#627312 - 12/09/19 11:26 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Yep, the worst case scenario is in the event of a no deal which if I am not mistaken you prefer than asking for an extension, no?


No its the worst case scenario in no deal and by the way there is no such thing as no deal and as wilki says would be nice for remain MP,s to publish now and again best case scenario or even most likely I would settle with
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#627313 - 12/09/19 11:49 AM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Yep, the worst case scenario is in the event of a no deal which if I am not mistaken you prefer than asking for an extension, no?


No its the worst case scenario in no deal and by the way there is no such thing as no deal and as wilki says would be nice for remain MP,s to publish now and again best case scenario or even most likely I would settle with


For remainers, the best case scenario is well known and the UK built it's success on it for decades, not sure what you would like them to publish. That said, I would love to see a no deal scenario, would be very interesting to see who is right and who is wrong, don't you agree? After years of arguments would it be great to see reality? I don't know what you mean by there is no such thing as no deal, what if there is no agreement signed on the 31st Oct and no extension agreed by the EU?


Edited by EnergisedReds (12/09/19 11:51 AM)

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#627318 - 12/09/19 12:24 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Yep, the worst case scenario is in the event of a no deal which if I am not mistaken you prefer than asking for an extension, no?


No its the worst case scenario in no deal and by the way there is no such thing as no deal and as wilki says would be nice for remain MP,s to publish now and again best case scenario or even most likely I would settle with


I agree we should leave with no deal

You have posted the following two statements on here.

The height of your logic in two sentences

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#627319 - 12/09/19 12:29 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Iíve just bought all the UHT milk and cans of beans the Co Op across the road had. Going down Tesco to fill my freezer with bread. Iíll be alright in the apocalypse.

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#627322 - 12/09/19 01:06 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Itíd be nice to see the best case scenario for once wouldnít it.

Anyway, Iím off to get my grab bag ready.


You are currently still enjoying the best case scenario

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#627323 - 12/09/19 01:36 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Itíd be nice to see the best case scenario for once wouldnít it.

Anyway, Iím off to get my grab bag ready.


You are currently still enjoying the best case scenario


Is that a fact or opinion? If itís a fact then you can obviously see into the future so if you could just pass on fridays lottery numbers too thatís be fantastic.

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#627329 - 12/09/19 03:30 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is worst case scenario any scenario planning takes account of all possible scenarios I don't expect shaggy to grasp that.


Itíd be nice to see the best case scenario for once wouldnít it.

Anyway, Iím off to get my grab bag ready.


You are currently still enjoying the best case scenario


Is that a fact or opinion? If itís a fact then you can obviously see into the future so if you could just pass on fridays lottery numbers too thatís be fantastic.


It is an opinion based on the available facts.

Take the time to have a read of Yellowhammer and if you can convince me that we will all be better off then fair play to you.

I would send you on the lotto numbers but it's the euro millions numbers I have and I wouldn't want to threaten your sovreignty.

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#627331 - 12/09/19 03:46 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case
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#627332 - 12/09/19 03:50 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case


So according how many scenarios for no deal there can be? You can have a lot of scenarios for the type of deal you'll negotiate, but a no deal is quite straight forward, but you can keep on hoping, this is what you've done for 3 years.

And btw, why hasn't your government published the best scenario for no deal, ask yourself that question, you might see the light


Edited by EnergisedReds (12/09/19 03:52 PM)

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#627336 - 12/09/19 04:06 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case


Nicola Sturgeon has said the Scottish governmentís copy of the Yellowhammer no-deal Brexit scenario plans was marked ďbase scenarioĒ

Surely Nicola must be mistake. Tories never lie.

Your argument has now deteriorated to the following: It's just going to be sh1te, not total sh1te.

Are you still happy to support a No Deal Brexit even though you have told us a No Deal Brexit doesn't exist.

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#627337 - 12/09/19 04:11 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog


It is an opinion based on the available facts.

Take the time to have a read of Yellowhammer and if you can convince me that we will all be better off then fair play to you.

I would send you on the lotto numbers but it's the euro millions numbers I have and I wouldn't want to threaten your sovreignty.


What facts? Yellow hammer isnít fact. Itís a worst case scenario. Iíve read most of it and the over riding words that kept being used are MAY and COULD. so as Iíve said, not a fact of what will happen but something that, youíve guessed it, MAY or COULD happen.

You can send me the numbers. Youíre not threatening my sovereignty. Iím a remainder donít forget. Just one that accepted the vote.

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#627338 - 12/09/19 04:15 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case


Nicola Sturgeon has said the Scottish governmentís copy of the Yellowhammer no-deal Brexit scenario plans was marked ďbase scenarioĒ

Surely Nicola must be mistake. Tories never lie.

Your argument has now deteriorated to the following: It's just going to be sh1te, not total sh1te.

Are you still happy to support a No Deal Brexit even though you have told us a No Deal Brexit doesn't exist.


Like Jimmy Crankie would have anything good to say about brexit or the uk in general. She only cares about how to get them the independence that they didnít vote for.

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#627339 - 12/09/19 04:18 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog


It is an opinion based on the available facts.

Take the time to have a read of Yellowhammer and if you can convince me that we will all be better off then fair play to you.

I would send you on the lotto numbers but it's the euro millions numbers I have and I wouldn't want to threaten your sovreignty.


What facts? Yellow hammer isnít fact. Itís a worst case scenario. Iíve read most of it and the over riding words that kept being used are MAY and COULD. so as Iíve said, not a fact of what will happen but something that, youíve guessed it, MAY or COULD happen.

You can send me the numbers. Youíre not threatening my sovereignty. Iím a remainder donít forget. Just one that accepted the vote.


I'm not talking about yellowhammer. I am talking about what you have currently and what you will have if you leave with no deal.

I am sorry, accepting anything from europe would make you a sell out in the eyes of the brexiteers and I don't want to be responsible for that.

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#627340 - 12/09/19 04:22 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case


Nicola Sturgeon has said the Scottish governmentís copy of the Yellowhammer no-deal Brexit scenario plans was marked ďbase scenarioĒ

Surely Nicola must be mistake. Tories never lie.

Your argument has now deteriorated to the following: It's just going to be sh1te, not total sh1te.

Are you still happy to support a No Deal Brexit even though you have told us a No Deal Brexit doesn't exist.


Like Jimmy Crankie would have anything good to say about brexit or the uk in general. She only cares about how to get them the independence that they didnít vote for.


Scottish Govt's copy of Yellowhammer says it's a 'base scenario', while UK Govt's says it's a 'reasonable worst case'.

Lie upon lie from this government.

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#627341 - 12/09/19 04:42 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case


Nicola Sturgeon has said the Scottish governmentís copy of the Yellowhammer no-deal Brexit scenario plans was marked ďbase scenarioĒ

Surely Nicola must be mistake. Tories never lie.

Your argument has now deteriorated to the following: It's just going to be sh1te, not total sh1te.

Are you still happy to support a No Deal Brexit even though you have told us a No Deal Brexit doesn't exist.


Like Jimmy Crankie would have anything good to say about brexit or the uk in general. She only cares about how to get them the independence that they didnít vote for.


Scottish Govt's copy of Yellowhammer says it's a 'base scenario', while UK Govt's says it's a 'reasonable worst case'.

Lie upon lie from this government.


I have the document in front of me which says Operation Yellow hammer HMG Reasonable Worst Case Planning Assumptions As of 2 August 2019. The assumptions are based on UK reverting fully to a 'third country' status and the relationship between the UK and the EU as a whole is unsympathetic. That's the worst case assumption and if Bojo doesn't behave, he might just get it full blown. But, it's true the proof is in the eating, I think it should be tried.

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#627342 - 12/09/19 05:05 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog


It is an opinion based on the available facts.

Take the time to have a read of Yellowhammer and if you can convince me that we will all be better off then fair play to you.

I would send you on the lotto numbers but it's the euro millions numbers I have and I wouldn't want to threaten your sovreignty.


What facts? Yellow hammer isnít fact. Itís a worst case scenario. Iíve read most of it and the over riding words that kept being used are MAY and COULD. so as Iíve said, not a fact of what will happen but something that, youíve guessed it, MAY or COULD happen.

You can send me the numbers. Youíre not threatening my sovereignty. Iím a remainder donít forget. Just one that accepted the vote.


I'm not talking about yellowhammer. I am talking about what you have currently and what you will have if you leave with no deal.

I am sorry, accepting anything from europe would make you a sell out in the eyes of the brexiteers and I don't want to be responsible for that.



The only fact of a no deal is that weíll got to WTO tariffs. No one knows what else will happen. So yes the WTO tariffs mean weíll be worse off to start with but itís not to say itíll be the Armageddon that is being predicted. Letís also remember that we could end up worse off staying in the EU. No one knows. All ifs, buts and maybes.

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#627343 - 12/09/19 05:06 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Yellowhammer is not a fact it's a worst case no deal scenario. Most people of average intelligence can grasp that for those with low intelligence sadly not the case


Nicola Sturgeon has said the Scottish governmentís copy of the Yellowhammer no-deal Brexit scenario plans was marked ďbase scenarioĒ

Surely Nicola must be mistake. Tories never lie.

Your argument has now deteriorated to the following: It's just going to be sh1te, not total sh1te.

Are you still happy to support a No Deal Brexit even though you have told us a No Deal Brexit doesn't exist.


Like Jimmy Crankie would have anything good to say about brexit or the uk in general. She only cares about how to get them the independence that they didnít vote for.


Scottish Govt's copy of Yellowhammer says it's a 'base scenario', while UK Govt's says it's a 'reasonable worst case'.

Lie upon lie from this government.


And Jimmy Crankie wonít lie to make them look worse will she? Of course she wouldnít. No politicians lie except those in government.

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#627345 - 12/09/19 06:48 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: wilkij1975]
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Shaggy thinks the worst case yellowhammer report is a fact

Good god
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#627350 - 12/09/19 07:43 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Shaggy thinks the worst case yellowhammer report is a fact

Good god


Oh dear. Stan I'm starting to think you are obsessing on me.

Brexit Stan Brexit. You can't have me.

As Vish said earlier Where is the governments best case Brexit outcome report?

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#627355 - 12/09/19 08:14 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: Shaggydog]
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#627357 - 12/09/19 08:19 PM Re: Operation Yellowhammer. So this is taking back control [Re: lumba]
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Stop! ... Hammertime


You can't stop this............

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