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Further quotes from the Article:

"The police became a convenient scapegoat, and the Sun newspaper a whipping-boy for daring, albeit in a tasteless fashion, to hint at the wider causes of the incident."

"The extreme reaction to Mr Bigley’s murder is fed by the fact that he was a Liverpudlian. Liverpool is a handsome city with a tribal sense of community. A combination of economic misfortune — its docks were, fundamentally, on the wrong side of England when Britain entered what is now the European Union — and an excessive predilection for welfarism have created a peculiar, and deeply unattractive, psyche among many Liverpudlians. They see themselves whenever possible as victims, and resent their victim status; yet at the same time they wallow in it. Part of this flawed psychological state is that they cannot accept that they might have made any contribution to their misfortunes, but seek rather to blame someone else for it, thereby deepening their sense of shared tribal grievance against the rest of society."

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Boris Johnson is a self serving buffoon! He was pro EU before he stabbed Cameron in the back and seen the tides changing in the Country so jumped on the Brexit bandwagon. He has only one agenda "himself" and he craves to be PM.

He's sh*t talked Liverpool pretty much his entire political career because the People of Liverpool know who he is and what he stands for. He once described Africans as "piccaninnies with watermelon smiles"!

I also remember he had agreed to supply an address of a mobster to a friend who could fix a problem his friend had with somebody.

The last person on God's green earth should be Boris for PM.

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Originally Posted By Pickles
Boris Johnson is a self serving buffoon! He was pro EU before he stabbed Cameron in the back and seen the tides changing in the Country so jumped on the Brexit bandwagon. He has only one agenda "himself" and he craves to be PM.

He's sh*t talked Liverpool pretty much his entire political career because the People of Liverpool know who he is and what he stands for. He once described Africans as "piccaninnies with watermelon smiles"!

I also remember he had agreed to supply an address of a mobster to a friend who could fix a problem his friend had with somebody.

The last person on God's green earth should be Boris for PM.



Wow, didn't expect that from you, but I agree. How great the picture of him and Trump will be?

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Tis terrible that yet again after a financial crisis the public get fed insane buffon racists to supposedly "drain the swamp" when in fact they just making things worse for the public.. way worse.

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Originally Posted By drome
There's a strong chance of Boris Johnson being the next PM and therefore leading on Brexit negotiations with EU leaders on behalf of the UK. In light of his article in the Spectator a number of years ago (excerpt from Boris' article below), I'm curious to know how Liverpool-based Koptalkers feel about this possibility? Do you support Boris in negotiating on your behalf? Do you trust him? Does it change your stance at all? Should Boris deliver Brexit, would it change your opinion of him?

"The deaths of more than 50 Liverpool football supporters at Hillsborough in 1989 was undeniably a greater tragedy than the single death, however horrible, of Mr Bigley; but that is no excuse for Liverpool's failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon."


I was at the disaster mate and the 88 semi at hillsborough the year before. The main cause of the disaster was lack of organisation and incompetence on behalf of the police and authorities. However some fans on that day were a disgrace I witnessed it with my own eyes and at the final at Wembley just weeks later. I also went to Athens in 2007 and there very nearly was a disaster there purely drunken fans and people trying to push in without a ticket also at Athens Liverpool fans were mugged for their tickets by other Liverpool fans.


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the thatcher drip drip lfc fans to blame propaganda dog whistle [oops].

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I think you are all forgetting the MP oath - to the Crown - no body else..

I think you are all forgetting the Privy Council - here's their oath - to the CROWN

The Oath of a Privy Counsellor
You do swear by Almighty God to be a true and faithful Servant unto The Queen’s Majesty as one of Her Majesty’s Privy Council. You will not know or understand of any manner of thing to be attempted, done or spoken against Her Majesty’s Person, Honour, Crown or Dignity Royal, but you will lett and withstand the same to the uttermost of your power, and either cause it to be revealed to Her Majesty Herself, or to such of Her Privy Council as shall advertise Her Majesty of the same. You will in all things to be moved, treated and debated in Council, faithfully and truly declare your Mind and Opinion, according to your Heart and Conscience; and will keep secret all matters committed and revealed unto you, or that shall be treated of secretly in Council. And if any of the said Treaties or Counsels shall touch any of the Counsellors you will not reveal it unto him but will keep the same until such time as, by the consent of Her Majesty or of the Council, Publication shall be made thereof. You will to your uttermost bear Faith and Allegiance to the Queen’s Majesty; and will assist and defend all civil and temporal Jurisdictions, Pre-eminences, and Authorities, granted to Her Majesty and annexed to the Crown by Acts of Parliament, or otherwise, against all Foreign Princes, Persons, Prelates, States, or Potentates. And generally in all things you will do as a faithful and true Servant ought to do to Her Majesty
SO HELP YOU GOD

Here's a list of the Privy Council members - see who's on the list - Oath to the CROWN ONLY

https://privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/privy-council/privy-council-members/privy-counsellors/

BTW - Boris is on the list as is loads others...

It ALL down to the CROWN - we cannot do anything as the ignoring of the Brexit vote already PROVES..

Republic of England anyone????


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Had a look into the Oaths of office for Canada and Australia - both commonwealth countries as you are aware...

Parliamentary Ministers in BOTH countries ALL swear OATH to the CROWN!!!!!

So there you have it, it all down to the crown, we have been duped for centuries...

We are NOT Democratic - we have an in place OPERATING Monarchy...........


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Originally Posted By RafaB
Had a look into the Oaths of office for Canada and Australia - both commonwealth countries as you are aware...

Parliamentary Ministers in BOTH countries ALL swear OATH to the CROWN!!!!!

So there you have it, it all down to the crown, we have been duped for centuries...

We are NOT Democratic - we have an in place OPERATING Monarchy...........


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Originally Posted By RafaB
Had a look into the Oaths of office for Canada and Australia - both commonwealth countries as you are aware...

Parliamentary Ministers in BOTH countries ALL swear OATH to the CROWN!!!!!

So there you have it, it all down to the crown, we have been duped for centuries...

We are NOT Democratic - we have an in place OPERATING Monarchy...........


It's the same for our armed forces they fight for the queen she is commander in chief. However it's entirely symbolic the queen never gets involved ever our army is entirely directed by politicians. The queen has never been involved in anything ever to my knowledge that said it could happen with brexit with the queens authority we could suspend parliament to get brexit through because as we know British politicians could not agree the time of day and are utterly and completely useless


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