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no i was never looking for some sort of "fact based argument"stats can be bent to suit a discussion." beaten most men"for example.that may not state he was running down a blind alley and got tackled by the 2nd player who he was never going to beat.the fact that as an attacker he has less assists than our 2 full backs is no great argument.and how does a player who has a better shot accuracy and conversion rate get the same amount as goals as the player with less?but this isn't about whether Salah is better than Mane.Mane is a much more rounded player than Salah.i would much rather have 2 Mane's than 2 Salah's but its only my opinion.Salah is very one dimensional and predictable.again only my opinion.he may have a better scoring rate than Suarez did for us,but does that mean he's a better player than Suarez was for us?not in a million years.
All im saying is that at the moment Salah has a value that is much higher than his actual ability.so if a big offer came in i would take it and hope that Klopp could use the money to improve the team.

The issue is you are making your argument completely on the "eye test." Anecdotally, a few times that something didn't come off for Salah, and I could do the same for Mane for example. I can think of plenty of times of moments of magic when Mo created something out of nothing. We shout at eachother for hours, and this goes in circles and goes nowhere. What statistics do is let us see the whole season of data, and see whether what we see has a greater pattern.

What statistics can tell us is that Salah beats his man 60% of the time when he tries to take him on. Mane does 43%. Both of these are good, particularly when they have the ball high up the pitch, and it's low risk for them to try something. But more often than not, it comes off when Mo tries something. Things you saw, particularly when he was in a patch of bad form in December, gave you an impression that he was selfish or wasteful. If he executes perfectly 9/10 times from that point on, when you see the one bad pass, bad decision or bad touch (that all players will eventually make), your confirmation bias sets in and you remark about him always losing the ball or being selfish. This is normal and human, and it's why the eye test alone isn't enough.

The point about him having fewer assists than our fullbacks is pedantic and silly though. Our fullbacks are our creative outlet. That 's how our system is built. You realize Trent and Andy are #3 and #4 in the league for assists, right? 12 and 11, more than Sane, Sterling, Pogba, and Aguero. almost everyone has fewer assists than them. Salah had 8, tied with Aguero, and more than our other front 3 members combined.

Selling Salah would be beyond silly, unless we were offered stupid money. Find me another player who can create and score 30+ goals a season, 2 years on the bounce in the prem. Sterling and Sane haven't done it. Aguero hasn't done it. Hazard's only done it one year. Mane hasn't done it. The last player. The last player we had like that was Suarez, and we saw how hard it was to replace him.

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Considerable powers?he's not one of the Avengers.you make it sound as if another player playing in his position doesn't need to be marked.Teams play like they do against us because we play with a front 3 and push the full backs on.
You have to remember that we are not a club who invest heavily in new players unless we know there is money coming in from players sales.we need a better squad and to do that we need to invest in the playing staff.at this time the best way to do that would be to get an inflated price for Salah as currently the sun shines from his behind.he has been very good for us,twice as good last season as he was this.im sure Klopp could get 2 top quality players for the price of one.But we probably wont sell him and we probably wont be making any big signing this summer.