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#621367 - 04/05/19 06:49 PM Re: 12 top-flight teams demand action by PL over Man City FFP [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
FFP is to avoid teams nearly going out of business by overspending with what they have not got, like Leeds & Portsmouth.

The problem is that it tends to lead to a cartel, where the big clubs stay big and the small clubs stay small and cannot close the gap as they are restricted on getting a benefactor, like an Abramovich. That's one of the reasons FSG bought us, they saw FFP levelling the playing field with teams like Chelsea not allowed to overspend, with our fan base they saw an opportunity to improve our commercial operations and improve us, which they have.

The problem is City have been backed by a country in effect, with unlimited funds, it's going to be interesting to see how they are
dealt with.


The problem is FFP was never implemented as they expected or wished, if it was United, Liverpool, Arsenal and probably Chelsea would have had a big advantage over others.


Yep, it was never implemented as they expected, Uefa have never shown real punishment/deterrent, there was talk of relegation/bans from European competitions etc, the biggest penalties given have been transfer bans, which the clubs usually appeal and gives them time to do their business.

Equally, as you say, if it would have been implemented, the advantage would have been too big for the existing 'Cartel' making the PL boring with the big 4 staying big and dominating CL qualification and that income, someone like Abramovich was needed to shake it up abit.


Edited by ecnirp98 (04/05/19 06:52 PM)

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#621368 - 04/05/19 07:36 PM Re: 12 top-flight teams demand action by PL over Man City FFP [Re: EnergisedReds]
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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By SSO
FFP is also to stop teams ploughing their own money into the club where other clubs cannot afford to do so.

A good way of maintaining income is having a full ground every game. City sell out but we all call it the Emptyhad. If there are always 55000 fans there the gate receipts will always be the same. If there are only 50000 the gate receipts will be lower. In step the owners with the claim that 55000 tickets were sold hence the gate receipts are the same. The owners propping up ticket sales is the same as them putting in extra money that has not been properly sourced from legitimate streams.

Look at City v us.
Gate receipts? Probably the same.
Shirt sales? We sell half a million more per year at 50 a pop.
Player sales? Do City sell players?
Tv revenue? Ours is usually higher.
Players bought? City spend more.
Players wages? How many City players +200k a week? 6 or 7 ?

When they get caught they should be RELEGATED!


They have much better sponsorship deals though a lot of them are from the UAE, this is what is being investigated.


You've tumbled them Tired!!


Edited by SSO (04/05/19 07:37 PM)

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#621377 - 04/05/19 09:27 PM Re: 12 top-flight teams demand action by PL over Man City FFP [Re: Pickles]
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You could say the same about the Spanish sides who get subsidized by their Government. I think the nefarious way City do it is via their owners sponsoring themselves...they try to hide it via various Family Members Companies. The Saudi's have not been the flavor of the month for a awhile worldwide after the incident in The Embassy. If the footballing authorities suddenly become anti-partizan towards their nefarious ways the Arabs will drop the likes of City & PSG like lead balloons.
The Spanish will also have their whinge behind the scenes, nudging the various authorities to act.

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#621386 - 05/05/19 04:54 AM Re: 12 top-flight teams demand action by PL over Man City FFP [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
You could say the same about the Spanish sides who get subsidized by their Government. I think the nefarious way City do it is via their owners sponsoring themselves...they try to hide it via various Family Members Companies. The Saudi's have not been the flavor of the month for a awhile worldwide after the incident in The Embassy. If the footballing authorities suddenly become anti-partizan towards their nefarious ways the Arabs will drop the likes of City & PSG like lead balloons.
The Spanish will also have their whinge behind the scenes, nudging the various authorities to act.



Seriously, I don't know what you are talking about. The Arabs haven't invested in football only and the West needs investment to maintain their lifestyle

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