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#618788 - 27/02/19 02:34 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: wilkij1975]
Shaggydog Offline
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Heís got a point though Shaggy. There was a democratic vote (despite what emp says) and it now seems that our politicians are trying to find a way out of it. Whether thatís good or bad I donít know but it will make a lot of disillusioned people even more so.




And it will secure a lot of jobs that would have been lost otherwise.

Besides, Theresa has just kicked the can further down the road. A No Deal Brexit is still a real danger.

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#618794 - 27/02/19 04:25 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Stanley Park]
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If it goes to a 2nd vote, they are stating your vote means nothing at all and will open the door for any other elections to be redone until the establishment gets the vote results they want.

I'm done with the UK, I'm going to take my Citizenship test over here, this Brexit debacle has convinced me without a shadow of doubt that the UK is now a Banana Republic!

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#618795 - 27/02/19 04:26 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Pickles]
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Originally Posted By Pickles
If it goes to a 2nd vote, they are stating your vote means nothing at all and will open the door for any other elections to be redone until the establishment gets the vote results they want.

I'm done with the UK, I'm going to take my Citizenship test over here, this Brexit debacle has convinced me without a shadow of doubt that the UK is now a Banana Republic!



There are toys lying all over the place in here today.

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#618796 - 27/02/19 04:28 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Shaggydog]
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If it's going to cost all these millions and millions and millions of jobs and more importantly some of our political class don't want brexit and think we gave the incorrect answer then the honest thing is for our politicians to cancel brexit not re-run some sham re-vote that no one will believe. I must say though leaving out the option of leaving the EU on the proposed sham re-vote was a nice touch by our masters and betters. If you are going to shaft democracy don't do it by halves I say

Ps Amazon delivered my yellow vest this morning
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#618800 - 27/02/19 04:59 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
If it's going to cost all these millions and millions and millions of jobs and more importantly some of our political class don't want brexit and think we gave the incorrect answer then the honest thing is for our politicians to cancel brexit not re-run some sham re-vote that no one will believe. I must say though leaving out the option of leaving the EU on the proposed sham re-vote was a nice touch by our masters and betters. If you are going to shaft democracy don't do it by halves I say

Ps Amazon delivered my yellow vest this morning


Lots of people are shiytting in their pants I am sure.


Edited by TiredReds (27/02/19 04:59 PM)

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#618801 - 27/02/19 04:59 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Stanley Park]
Shaggydog Offline
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Registered: 30/12/10
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
If it's going to cost all these millions and millions and millions of jobs and more importantly some of our political class don't want brexit and think we gave the incorrect answer then the honest thing is for our politicians to cancel brexit not re-run some sham re-vote that no one will believe. I must say though leaving out the option of leaving the EU on the proposed sham re-vote was a nice touch by our masters and betters. If you are going to shaft democracy don't do it by halves I say

Ps Amazon delivered my yellow vest this morning


The nearest you will get to wearing a yellow vest is if you wet yourself Stan.

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#618802 - 27/02/19 05:45 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Shaggydog]
Stanley Park Offline
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They may respect the referendum result Theresa Mays deal or some variant might get passed after some more squabbling. That's probably still the favourite

However even if it does I am done with our politicians just when you think they can't get more stupid they prove you wrong. Labour are all over the place god only knows what they stand for. The Tory rebels undermining Theresa May right at the crucial point in the negotiations are beyond parody. What where they thinking ? The EU must be laughing it's head off.

Some very big changes coming this is not just my opinion everyone is saying in remainers and leavers who I know in real life. If there are future protests in London I will be down there never done that in my life before.
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#618803 - 27/02/19 05:56 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
They may respect the referendum result Theresa Mays deal or some variant might get passed after some more squabbling. That's probably still the favourite

However even if it does I am done with our politicians just when you think they can't get more stupid they prove you wrong. Labour are all over the place god only knows what they stand for. The Tory rebels undermining Theresa May right at the crucial point in the negotiations are beyond parody. What where they thinking ? The EU must be laughing it's head off.

Some very big changes coming this is not just my opinion everyone is saying in remainers and leavers who I know in real life. If there are future protests in London I will be down there never done that in my life before.


It's good you go as the remainers protesting have been bigger in numbers in London at least.

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#618804 - 27/02/19 06:17 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: EnergisedReds]
Stanley Park Offline
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Registered: 21/10/09
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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
They may respect the referendum result Theresa Mays deal or some variant might get passed after some more squabbling. That's probably still the favourite

However even if it does I am done with our politicians just when you think they can't get more stupid they prove you wrong. Labour are all over the place god only knows what they stand for. The Tory rebels undermining Theresa May right at the crucial point in the negotiations are beyond parody. What where they thinking ? The EU must be laughing it's head off.

Some very big changes coming this is not just my opinion everyone is saying in remainers and leavers who I know in real life. If there are future protests in London I will be down there never done that in my life before.


It's good you go as the remainers protesting have been bigger in numbers in London at least.


Bigger than what ?
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#618806 - 27/02/19 10:24 PM Re: Brexit 2016-2019 RIP [Re: Shaggydog]
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Registered: 26/06/09
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Loc: Northamptonshire
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Heís got a point though Shaggy. There was a democratic vote (despite what emp says) and it now seems that our politicians are trying to find a way out of it. Whether thatís good or bad I donít know but it will make a lot of disillusioned people even more so.




And it will secure a lot of jobs that would have been lost otherwise.

Besides, Theresa has just kicked the can further down the road. A No Deal Brexit is still a real danger.


Is it whatís best for democracy though?

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