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#614185 - 29/11/18 10:47 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: Stanley Park]
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I donít watch them either but would rather watch them than watch those two argue like school children over whoís best. Itíll be a complete joke and no doubt Corbyn will call for a general election about 50 times during it.

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#614192 - 30/11/18 07:59 AM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: wilkij1975]
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strong and stable

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#614210 - 30/11/18 11:07 AM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: wilkij1975]
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
I donít watch them either but would rather watch them than watch those two argue like school children over whoís best. Itíll be a complete joke and no doubt Corbyn will call for a general election about 50 times during it.


Ha ha I agree it will be unbearable and we all know corbyns script because he has said it a thousand times. The problem with brexit now is everything that could be said has been said over and over and over. There is nothing new to say or think. MP,s need to stop the games and party politics and vote for the deal or have no deal it's getting to be embarrasing now as a brit I am ashamed of our politicans. And if it ends up with another referendum because our politicians either deliberately or because they can't decide overturn the biggest public vote in British history then we have hit rock bottom and inevitably nasty political parties like we see coming to power all over the EU will start to gain traction in Britain. I don't want to see that
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#614213 - 30/11/18 02:02 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By EMP
strong and stable


Yeah the whole thing is under control.

Interesting few weeks coming up.

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#614215 - 30/11/18 03:47 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: Shaggydog]
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By EMP
strong and stable


Yeah the whole thing is under control.

Interesting few weeks coming up.



It would be if everyone put their own interests aside and worked for the good of the country. Shame not one of our politicians seems to be capable of that.

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#614223 - 30/11/18 08:23 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: Stanley Park]
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#614249 - 01/12/18 01:42 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: lumba]
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Good article by Michael gove today in the mail and in particular the deal on the backstop which is the sticking point for most including me. However few understand what was agreed and you look into the detail it's not ideal no but as negative to the EU as the UK so it's hard to see how the EU would agree to it indefinitely harming themselves just to hack Britain off out of spite. And that's assuming the backstop is triggered it might not be. As for the rest of the detail yes I have issues but as someone wise once said "successful negotiation is getting what nobody wants" the deal delivers most (but not all) the benefits of brexit I voted for and for me that's going to have to be good enough. The deal also has things in it for remainers we are not fully leaving the EU. It would be good to think common sense prevails in our privileged political class on the 11th Dec but I fear not
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#614329 - 03/12/18 04:33 AM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Good article by Michael gove today in the mail and in particular the deal on the backstop which is the sticking point for most including me. However few understand what was agreed and you look into the detail it's not ideal no but as negative to the EU as the UK so it's hard to see how the EU would agree to it indefinitely harming themselves just to hack Britain off out of spite. And that's assuming the backstop is triggered it might not be. As for the rest of the detail yes I have issues but as someone wise once said "successful negotiation is getting what nobody wants" the deal delivers most (but not all) the benefits of brexit I voted for and for me that's going to have to be good enough. The deal also has things in it for remainers we are not fully leaving the EU. It would be good to think common sense prevails in our privileged political class on the 11th Dec but I fear not


What I have learned is that a successful negotiation is when both sides are happy especially if both parties are to work together in the long term as partners. The problem in this case is that the division in the UK runs very deep, thus nobody in the extremes will be happy

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#614359 - 03/12/18 02:13 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: EnergisedReds]
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The deal involves a close relationship with the EU and other than the backstop it I could probably live with it. Even the backstop is not as bad as being made out when you look into the detail. We need to accept this deal and move on
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#614372 - 03/12/18 05:21 PM Re: Brexit and the chequers agreement ? [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The deal involves a close relationship with the EU and other than the backstop it I could probably live with it. Even the backstop is not as bad as being made out when you look into the detail. We need to accept this deal and move on


It's up to your Tories they have the majority

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