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We have moved into the top 20 for the first time since Rafa left, and are now above Spurs, United, and Chelsea. 14th is the highest we have been ranked in quite some time, and with our poor 12-15 return about to be blotted out, we should be even higher next year. This is critically important, as we will now be seeded favorably and likely be in pot 2 minimum in future drawings. Perhaps we will see a day where LFC is ranked 1st in Europe again. . .
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If the display against Red Star is anything to go by, we can certainly be the leading powerhouse in European football again. UEFA would hate that. They will dread the thought of Liverpool and English clubs in general dominating the Champions League again.
I can't wait.
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Why would they hate that? Surely they want big historical clubs with large followings to do well.
That's why they changed the rules about the top 4 leagues having 4 spots and avoid qualifyers. I'm sure they would love United, Arsenal, and Milan to be in the mix of things as well.
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If the display against Red Star is anything to go by, we can certainly be the leading powerhouse in European football again. UEFA would hate that. They will dread the thought of Liverpool and English clubs in general dominating the Champions League again.
I can't wait. Total BS though a lot of people don't like the English, starting with home nations, ie, Irish, Scots and even the Welsh. If you add a lot of the former colonies and now lots of EU nationals after Brexit, the list does get long.
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It is amazing to see City on there who are never going to win the CL as high as 8th.
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It is amazing to see City on there who are never going to win the CL as high as 8th. What makes you think they'll never win the CL?
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How do they work the ranking out?
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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It's completely random Lumbs!
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You're not wrong Goghy.. Arsenal
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I'm guessing qualifying alone for the Champs league has alot to do with it.
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I'm guessing most of it is around consistency, we dropped out the CL for a few years, so dropped down the rankings, but then City qualify every year for about 10 years, have never had any real success in the CL and are up there.
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It is amazing to see City on there who are never going to win the CL as high as 8th. What makes you think they'll never win the CL? They have been throwing money money and more money after it for the last 10 years without really looking like troubling the major players. If they cross our path again we will turf them out like we did last year. They are just not up to it. They play in a stadium that is not theirs and not paid for by themselves so that the money their owners can spend on players and wages is just obscene and they are still nowhere near winning the CL. It is just not in their DNA as a club and every time they take on a big fish in this competition in the knock out phase they will bite the dust. A club has to crave CL football with its fans breathing it in and out with every kick header and tackle made on the field. Even though they are favourites to win it this year in my eyes their success in it to me would be as surprising as Leicester winning the PL. They simply don't have the belief. The stadium is not theirs, they hire the most successful managers, pay silly wages to players who are going to be on the bench and they can't fill their ground every week. Worse than that is that because they don't own their ground they have been allowed to spend spend spend on the pitch way beyond what any other club here can do because everyone else has had to pay their way. And the worst of all has to be that stupid fukkin dance that they pinched off of Lech Posnan because they have nothing new to offer. Eight attempts and they have been twice eliminated by Barca and once by RM, Monaco, Sporting Lisbon, Dynamo Kiev and ourselves. One semi final and one quarter final is a very poor return for a side with so much money to spend. I despise them nearly as much as Scumchester and Chelsea.
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I'm guessing qualifying alone for the Champs league has alot to do with it. I think it's based on 5 last years of qualification and stage reached in Europe, both CL and EL but with coefficient. It's very well defined and definitely not random.
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It is amazing to see City on there who are never going to win the CL as high as 8th. What makes you think they'll never win the CL? They have been throwing money money and more money after it for the last 10 years without really looking like troubling the major players. If they cross our path again we will turf them out like we did last year. They are just not up to it. They play in a stadium that is not theirs and not paid for by themselves so that the money their owners can spend on players and wages is just obscene and they are still nowhere near winning the CL. It is just not in their DNA as a club and every time they take on a big fish in this competition in the knock out phase they will bite the dust. A club has to crave CL football with its fans breathing it in and out with every kick header and tackle made on the field. Even though they are favourites to win it this year in my eyes their success in it to me would be as surprising as Leicester winning the PL. They simply don't have the belief. The stadium is not theirs, they hire the most successful managers, pay silly wages to players who are going to be on the bench and they can't fill their ground every week. Worse than that is that because they don't own their ground they have been allowed to spend spend spend on the pitch way beyond what any other club here can do because everyone else has had to pay their way. And the worst of all has to be that stupid fukkin dance that they pinched off of Lech Posnan because they have nothing new to offer. Eight attempts and they have been twice eliminated by Barca and once by RM, Monaco, Sporting Lisbon, Dynamo Kiev and ourselves. One semi final and one quarter final is a very poor return for a side with so much money to spend. I despise them nearly as much as Scumchester and Chelsea. I think they will win it under Pep, so rather sooner than later
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How do they work the ranking out? It's based on European performance for the past 5 years. 4 points for qualifying for the champions league outright, points for winning qualifying rounds, knock out games, etc. Nothing random about it.
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How do they work the ranking out? Well... They put their left arm in and their left arm out In, out, in, out, And Sheikh it all about. They do the Hokey Cokey and they turn around And a big load of heavy brown paper bags appear And whichever bag is heaviest goes 1st And the next heaviest 2nd And so on, and so forth That's basically the gist of it!
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1 Real Madrid CF 2 FC Barcelona 3 FC Bayern München 4 Club Atlético de Madrid 5 Juventus 6 Sevilla FC 7 Paris Saint-Germain 8 Manchester City FC 9 FC Porto 10 Arsenal FC 11 Borussia Dortmund 12 FC Shakhtar Donetsk 13 AS Roma 14 Liverpool FC 15 SSC Napoli 16 Manchester United FC 17 FC Zenit 18 AS Monaco FC 19 Chelsea FC 20 Besiktas 21 SL Benfica 22 Tottenham Hotspur FC 23 FC Dynamo Kyiv 24 FC Basel 1893 25 FC Schalke 04 26 Bayer 04 Leverkusen 27 Villarreal CF 28 AFC Ajax 29 Olympique Lyonnais 30 PFC CSKA Moskva 31 Athletic Club 32 Sporting Clube de Portugal 33 RSC Anderlecht 34 FC Salzburg 35 VfL Wolfsburg 36 ACF Fiorentina 37 Olympiacos FC 38 PSV Eindhoven 39 AC Sparta Praha 40 Club Brugge 41 SS Lazio 42 SC Braga 43 FC København 44 KAA Gent 45 Olympique de Marseille 46 VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach 47 FC Krasnodar 48 FC Viktoria Plzeň 49 Celtic FC 50 FC Lokomotiv Moskva
We have moved into the top 20 for the first time since Rafa left, and are now above Spurs, United, and Chelsea. 14th is the highest we have been ranked in quite some time, and with our poor 12-15 return about to be blotted out, we should be even higher next year. This is critically important, as we will now be seeded favorably and likely be in pot 2 minimum in future drawings. Perhaps we will see a day where LFC is ranked 1st in Europe again. . . The only good thing about this other than showing progress is that we will be seeded more favourably for the group phase. Other than that there is not much. We were below 20th but made 2 finals, so, it is only helpful for the seeding which usually is not a huge problem. Sometimes non seeded teams are as strong, ask the Napoli President. I do think however that 5 years is too long to consider, 3 years should be the maximum, ideally 2, then it will better reflect the latest strength of a team.
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1 Real Madrid CF 2 FC Barcelona 3 FC Bayern München 4 Club Atlético de Madrid 5 Juventus 6 Sevilla FC 7 Paris Saint-Germain 8 Manchester City FC 9 FC Porto 10 Arsenal FC 11 Borussia Dortmund 12 FC Shakhtar Donetsk 13 AS Roma 14 Liverpool FC 15 SSC Napoli 16 Manchester United FC 17 FC Zenit 18 AS Monaco FC 19 Chelsea FC 20 Besiktas 21 SL Benfica 22 Tottenham Hotspur FC 23 FC Dynamo Kyiv 24 FC Basel 1893 25 FC Schalke 04 26 Bayer 04 Leverkusen 27 Villarreal CF 28 AFC Ajax 29 Olympique Lyonnais 30 PFC CSKA Moskva 31 Athletic Club 32 Sporting Clube de Portugal 33 RSC Anderlecht 34 FC Salzburg 35 VfL Wolfsburg 36 ACF Fiorentina 37 Olympiacos FC 38 PSV Eindhoven 39 AC Sparta Praha 40 Club Brugge 41 SS Lazio 42 SC Braga 43 FC København 44 KAA Gent 45 Olympique de Marseille 46 VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach 47 FC Krasnodar 48 FC Viktoria Plzeň 49 Celtic FC 50 FC Lokomotiv Moskva
We have moved into the top 20 for the first time since Rafa left, and are now above Spurs, United, and Chelsea. 14th is the highest we have been ranked in quite some time, and with our poor 12-15 return about to be blotted out, we should be even higher next year. This is critically important, as we will now be seeded favorably and likely be in pot 2 minimum in future drawings. Perhaps we will see a day where LFC is ranked 1st in Europe again. . . The only good thing about this other than showing progress is that we will be seeded more favourably for the group phase. Other than that there is not much. We were below 20th but made 2 finals, so, it is only helpful for the seeding which usually is not a huge problem. Sometimes non seeded teams are as strong, ask the Napoli President. I do think however that 5 years is too long to consider, 3 years should be the maximum, ideally 2, then it will better reflect the latest strength of a team. We were in pot 3 this year, which was tough. As holders we're automatically in pot 1, but the next year after we will be seeded highly regardless.
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How do they work the ranking out? Well... They put their left arm in and their left arm out In, out, in, out, And Sheikh it all about. They do the Hokey Cokey and they turn around And a big load of heavy brown paper bags appear And whichever bag is heaviest goes 1st And the next heaviest 2nd And so on, and so forth That's basically the gist of it! Ha ha, excellent Pickles. As some have said it isn't random at all, it's all decided on weighting.....bag weight...as you so brilliantly put it.
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Loved the Hokey Cokey..and that's what it's all about.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Don't Rock The Boat, Lumbs I'd like to know where you got the notion?
Another classic dance from every wedding and party nightclub...Hippodrome, Maxims etc...!
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That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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What was that? sounds like Max & Paddy or Phoenix Nights?
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It's Daves Disco..Every town and City had a Daves Disco.
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A quick youtube search comfirms that you can still book a Dave in 2019 for any occasion ,don't think he's a real Doc though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQoVp7i4RA
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Ahh the bane of every kid in school called Dave Disco Dave and the classic “Dave he can swim like a fish”! After the yearly Government ads about swimming safety! lol
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It's in Istanbul next year, lads. Wouldn't it be something if we could retain our CL title in the stadium that gave us one of the best nights of our lives?
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ESP: Barcelona, Atlético Madrid, Real Madrid, Valencia ENG: Manchester City, Liverpool (holders), Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur ITA: Juventus, Napoli, Atalanta, Internazionale Milano GER: Bayern München, Borussia Dortmund, RB Leipzig, Bayer Leverkusen FRA: Paris Saint-Germain, LOSC Lille, Lyon** RUS: Zenit, Lokomotiv Moskva POR: Benfica UKR: Shakhtar Donetsk BEL: Genk TUR: Galatasaray AUT: Salzburg*
Pot 1: Liverpool (holders), Chelsea (UEFA Europa League winners), Barcelona, Manchester City, Juventus, Bayern, Paris, Zenit
Pot 2: TBD but as it stands Real Madrid Atlético Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli,Shakhtar Donetsk, Tottenham Hotspur
Pot 2 or 3 depending on qualifying results: Lyon, Benfica
Pot 3: TBD but as it stands: Bayer Leverkusen, Red Bull Salzburg, Valencia, Inter Milan
Pot 3 or 4 Depending on qualifying results: Lokomotiv Moscow, Genk, RB Leipzig, Galatasaray
Pot 4 TBD As it stands: Lille, Atalanta
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Would love to get Real Madrid, Inter, and Lille.
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Would love to get Real Madrid, Inter, and Lille. It's usually the 3rd pot that defines the strength of the group and teams in that pot are no pushovers. Would prefer Bayer
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