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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I once spent some time looking at the so called facts on man made climate change it was simply assertions on data in other words an opinion. That's all it is same as the ice age theories in the 70,s lots of scientists were saying that too.


When did you spend that time? There is more consensus on the reasons of global warming now than 5 years ago as data collection and analysis get more sophisticated.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I once spent some time looking at the so called facts on man made climate change it was simply assertions on data in other words an opinion. That's all it is same as the ice age theories in the 70,s lots of scientists were saying that too.


When did you spend that time? There is more consensus on the reasons of global warming now than 5 years ago as data collection and analysis get more sophisticated.


Is there really ? How fascinating !


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Unless the sophisticated, data collection involves time travel or they've found a 4.6 Billion year old Scientist who has been collecting the data for each year of existence, then it's all hot air!

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Isn't that what ice core samples give us? I think they can go back about a million years and tell what the temperature and co2 levels were back then. It's silly to dismiss science simply because it doesn't work with your political beliefs.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I once spent some time looking at the so called facts on man made climate change it was simply assertions on data in other words an opinion. That's all it is same as the ice age theories in the 70,s lots of scientists were saying that too.


When did you spend that time? There is more consensus on the reasons of global warming now than 5 years ago as data collection and analysis get more sophisticated.


Is there really ? How fascinating !


Science does make progress you know, else we'll still be cavemen, though some are to some degree.

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Stan thinks we're hitching a ride on a cosmic Turtle Vish.


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I've got no problem with Science / Scientists..when they all agree!

I want to make clear I am not a Climate Change Denier, I'm a MAN-MADE Global Warming Skeptic because of the poor reasoning and bad Science and manipulated stats, used to peddle this narrative.

I am a great believer in empirical science and not consensus science because the latter tends to be of hidden agenda with little to no due dilligence involved. It's easy to tax the hell out of the masses peddling a notion based on mistruth. How easy is it to pay some folks with initials after their name to invent and manipulate theories that mankind is toasting the planet and that our Great, Great Grandchildren won't be able to exist if we carry on!

When ALL Science / Scientists agree and they have beyond reasonable doubt evidence to support the catastrophic man-made global warming that is peddled, then I will support it!


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Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
I've got no problem with Science / Scientists..when they all agree!

I want to make clear I am not a Climate Change Denier, I'm a MAN-MADE Global Warming Skeptic because of the poor reasoning and bad Science and manipulated stats, used to peddle this narrative.

I am a great believer in empirical science and not consensus science because the latter tends to be of hidden agenda with little to no due dilligence involved. It's easy to tax the hell out of the masses peddling a notion based on mistruth. How easy is it to pay some folks with initials after their name to invent and manipulate theories that mankind is toasting the planet and that our Great, Great Grandchildren won't be able to exist if we carry on!

When ALL Science / Scientists agree and they have beyond reasonable doubt evidence to support the catastrophic man-made global warming that is peddled, then I will support it!



As much as I understand most scientists agree on global warming except those having agendas. You don't get all countries in the world to agree on the way forward at the COP 21 summit on lies. Trump wants to protect his indudtry/miners which doesn't have anything to do with science.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
I've got no problem with Science / Scientists..when they all agree!

I want to make clear I am not a Climate Change Denier, I'm a MAN-MADE Global Warming Skeptic because of the poor reasoning and bad Science and manipulated stats, used to peddle this narrative.

I am a great believer in empirical science and not consensus science because the latter tends to be of hidden agenda with little to no due dilligence involved. It's easy to tax the hell out of the masses peddling a notion based on mistruth. How easy is it to pay some folks with initials after their name to invent and manipulate theories that mankind is toasting the planet and that our Great, Great Grandchildren won't be able to exist if we carry on!

When ALL Science / Scientists agree and they have beyond reasonable doubt evidence to support the catastrophic man-made global warming that is peddled, then I will support it!



As much as I understand most scientists agree on global warming except those having agendas. You don't get all countries in the world to agree on the way forward at the COP 21 summit on lies. Trump wants to protect his indudtry/miners which doesn't have anything to do with science.


The agenda being granting funding saying you believe in climate change is a huge money spinner there is billions in climate change research world wide any scientist who wants to earn must favour it


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
I've got no problem with Science / Scientists..when they all agree!

I want to make clear I am not a Climate Change Denier, I'm a MAN-MADE Global Warming Skeptic because of the poor reasoning and bad Science and manipulated stats, used to peddle this narrative.

I am a great believer in empirical science and not consensus science because the latter tends to be of hidden agenda with little to no due dilligence involved. It's easy to tax the hell out of the masses peddling a notion based on mistruth. How easy is it to pay some folks with initials after their name to invent and manipulate theories that mankind is toasting the planet and that our Great, Great Grandchildren won't be able to exist if we carry on!

When ALL Science / Scientists agree and they have beyond reasonable doubt evidence to support the catastrophic man-made global warming that is peddled, then I will support it!



As much as I understand most scientists agree on global warming except those having agendas. You don't get all countries in the world to agree on the way forward at the COP 21 summit on lies. Trump wants to protect his indudtry/miners which doesn't have anything to do with science.


The agenda being granting funding saying you believe in climate change is a huge money spinner there is billions in climate change research world wide any scientist who wants to earn must favour it


Most people don't do anything just for money as you believe being a genuine old Tory, lots of them have ethics and values.

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