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#545268 10/10/16 04:32 AM
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Gloves were off on Trump he handed Hillary's a*s on a plate to her!

He had 3 victims of Bill in the audience and 1 victim of Hillary!

Clinton was on the defence all the way through...she got way more time to answer the questions put to them both...Trump was repeatedly interrupted by both Moderators but handled himself with aplomb!

Media will no doubt say something entirely different as they have done in this entire campaign!

Trump stated if he wins he is going to get Special Prosecutors in to investigate Hillary...said she should be in jail laugh

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Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
Gloves were off on Trump he handed Hillary's a*s on a plate to her!

He had 3 victims of Bill in the audience and 1 victim of Hillary!

Clinton was on the defence all the way through...she got way more time to answer the questions put to them both...Trump was repeatedly interrupted by both Moderators but handled himself with aplomb!

Media will no doubt say something entirely different as they have done in this entire campaign!

Trump stated if he wins he is going to get Special Prosecutors in to investigate Hillary...said she should be in jail laugh




I feel really sorry for Americans.....


Once a great nation with some truly inspirational leaders and now reduced to having to decide between these two.....

How the mighty have fallen........

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
Gloves were off on Trump he handed Hillary's a*s on a plate to her!

He had 3 victims of Bill in the audience and 1 victim of Hillary!

Clinton was on the defence all the way through...she got way more time to answer the questions put to them both...Trump was repeatedly interrupted by both Moderators but handled himself with aplomb!

Media will no doubt say something entirely different as they have done in this entire campaign!

Trump stated if he wins he is going to get Special Prosecutors in to investigate Hillary...said she should be in jail laugh




I feel really sorry for Americans.....


Once a great nation with some truly inspirational leaders and now reduced to having to decide between these two.....

How the mighty have fallen........


Yep. And what passes for politics out there is sickening.

But I hope they get all they deserve if that fukking idiot Trump gets in. Trouble is, with his finger on the nuclear button, we could all be in the shitte!

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Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
Gloves were off on Trump he handed Hillary's a*s on a plate to her!

He had 3 victims of Bill in the audience and 1 victim of Hillary!

Clinton was on the defence all the way through...she got way more time to answer the questions put to them both...Trump was repeatedly interrupted by both Moderators but handled himself with aplomb!

Media will no doubt say something entirely different as they have done in this entire campaign!

Trump stated if he wins he is going to get Special Prosecutors in to investigate Hillary...said she should be in jail laugh




So what's so great in Trump, I fail to see?

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What a pity the most powerful nation on earth decides its leader by knocking lumps out of each other personally the polls seem to indicate trump lost the debate but he might win the election it could go anyway either one would be a bad choice for America and the world


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I have always stated just how different these 2 flawed candidates are! Trump is by no means perfect but pales into comparison of the Clinton machine.

The Clintons and their liberal media empire along with Hollywood are currently driving the narrative on this Trump tape from over a decade ago, while the atrocities and lies committed by Hillary Clinton go unmentioned. We are, 29 days out from the election, and the pundits and media have all declared this race is now over. Who are they to declare this race is over? This is not the media's country. This is not the media's choice. It's not any political party's choice, not the choice of the Clinton Machine, or Hollywood it is not the choice of Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. This race will be over, and this election will be won, when the AMERICAN PEOPLE have made their voices heard on election day, just like Brexit!
The media has not even attempted to put this old Trump tape into context. The media has not, nor has it ever, applied the same standards to all of Hillary Clinton's flaws, which dwarf those of Trump. Yes, Trump's WORDS, 11 years ago, are offensive.
However what should be done about the BEHAVIORS and the ACTIONS of Hillary and Bill Clinton, in the years before he ran for president, his eight years in the White House, and during the years SHE was a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State?
Was Hillary as outraged over the scores of extramarital affairs Bill Clinton had before and during his time in the White House, and the lies they both told connected to THEIR BEHAVIORS concerning these affairs? Is she only NOW suddenly outraged over Trump's words on an 11-year-old recording?
Why did she refer to Monica Lewinsky as a “narcissistic Looney-toon”?
Was she outraged that her husband exposed himself to a woman named Paula Jones? Was she outraged when they had to pay $850,000 to settle the case with Paula Jones, while Clinton supporters called Jones a piece of trailer trash, and engaged in blaming HER, the victim?
Was Hillary outraged when another woman claimed Bill Clinton raped her? Did Hillary ever investigate those allegations? Did Hillary believe that Juanita Broaddrick had the right to be believed or heard, as she now claims all victims of assault have a right to be believed and heard?
Did Hillary ever reach out to Kathleen Willey after Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped, grabbed, fondled, and kissed her against her will?
Which is worse here? Donald Trump's WORDS or Bill Clinton's ACTIONS and Hillary's silence and her long-standing, ACTIVE smears and cover-ups? If Hillary is so concerned about women's rights and the treatment of women, why did she accept tens of millions of dollars from countries that abuse women, kill gays and lesbians, and persecute Christians and Jews? There is no record of Hillary ever being critical of any of these practices by these countries she took money from. She should give the money back!
Does it matter that Hillary, a self-appointed champion of women's rights, can be seen and heard laughing and bragging on videotape about defending (and getting a reduced sentence for) a man SHE believed to be GUILTY of raping a 12-year-old girl?
How about the blue dress, the oral sex in the Oval Office...the cigars? All of these lewd FACTS and BEHAVIORS perpetrated by Bill Clinton in one way or another "objectified" all of these women, did they not? And NONE of that ever outraged Hillary?
Up until this point in the campaign, Hillary has never been asked ANY of these important questions by an abusively biased and corrupt media. Perhaps NOW she will be asked about these things ... but I seriously doubt it!
Will anyone in the liberal media (in the next 29 days) ever ask Hillary any of these tough questions? No they won't ... Because there is a double standard in the liberal media. There is only feigned, or selective moral outrage!
If the Trump tape so "outraged" people, especially Hillary as she claims, then she must likewise be intellectually honest and morally consistent and condemn her own husband and their many friends who all engaged in slander and smears against women who actually WERE abused by the Clintons!
TBH, I would not be surprised if the Clintons and their supporters are sitting on more tapes showing Trump in an unfavorable light. They may release these at different points in order to divert attention from all of Hillary's national security and email scandals, lies, policy disasters and corruption and to continue to prevent a thorough examination of their despicable behaviors. This is what the Clintons do. This is what they have always done. This is how Hillary operates. And she believes as those around her do, that this election, and this presidency, is hers!
If Hillary gets to become the next POTUS she is not going to change a thing...8 years of Obama which has crippled America:

95 million Americans are out of the labor force. Of that, there has been a 20 percent increase in the number of black Americans who have fallen out of the labor force since Obama became president.

America has the lowest labour participation rate since the 1970s.

America is experiencing the worst economic recovery since the 1940s.

America has the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.

7 in 10 Americans have less than $1,000 in savings.

There are 12 million more Americans on food stamps today than before Obama took office. Of that, there has been a 58% increase in black Americans in food stamps since Obama became president.

There are 8 million more Americans in poverty than there were before Obama took office.

Obama is the only president in American history to never reach 3% GDP growth.

1 in 5 American families do not have a single-family member in the workforce.

1 in 6 American men 18-34 are either in jail or out of work and living in their parents' basement.

Millions of people didn't keep their doctors or their health care plans, nor did they save an average of $2,500 per family per year. Since Obama has been president, the average healthcare cost per family per year has actually increased by $4,100.

By the time Obama leaves office he will accumulate more debt than all 43 presidents before him combined. Before he entered office, he said 9 trillion in debt was "irresponsible and unpatriotic." Today, under his watch, that amount has more than tripled.

U.S. foreign policy has been a disaster for the last seven years.

U.S. policies under Hillary Clinton and Obama in Iraq and Syria created a vacuum for ISIS to emerge with the finances (oil) to expand their terror network, including into the United States.

Benghazi: The U.S. state department denied Security 600 times before the attack occurred. No help was sent during the attack, and multiple lies were told to the American people after the attack. (Though Hillary did tell the Libyan president, the Egyptian president, and her daughter, Chelsea, the truth.)
What is worse: Donald Trump's locker-room talk a decade ago? Or the fact that four Americans were abandoned and left to die?
In Egypt, Obama and Hillary supported Morsi, a prominent member of the Muslim Brotherhood who referred to "Jews" as "descendants of apes and pigs!"

But the question in this election is not who is "worse," or whose flaws are bigger or smaller. The question is, who has the BEST vision going forward for the future of America!

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There has been plenty more victims as well as those 4 brave women who showed up to the Presidential debate last night of the Clintons.

Here is Bill groping an air stewardess >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CKoSbpwncE

Here are those 4 brave women at the press conference with Donald Trump before last night's 2nd Presidential debate >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2jQSeP068

The Clintons are horrific on so many levels...Trump's biggest flaw is his mouth! Actions speak far louder than words!

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"God Bless HELP America".




....and the rest of the world. eek

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A White House Secret Service Agent who served under The Clintons
Gary Byrne wrote a book about working in The White House under them - "Crisis Of Character".

He discloses in the book just how intolerable a person that Hillary really is away from the public eye...

Here is an interview with the author on The Sean Hannity Show >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbJe-Yelp-I

Gary Byrne states that Hillary is a "Very angry person most of the time"! She has 2 faces...one when the cameras are rolling which is the one we see on tv and the one who disrespects everybody around her, who is there to help!
Displays a holier than now attitude: "Do as I say...Not as I do"!
"She comes across as a Dictator"...states Byrne!
She cusses at Staff, even threw a bible at one of them who was trying to help her!

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Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
I have always stated just how different these 2 flawed candidates are! Trump is by no means perfect but pales into comparison of the Clinton machine.

The Clintons and their liberal media empire along with Hollywood are currently driving the narrative on this Trump tape from over a decade ago, while the atrocities and lies committed by Hillary Clinton go unmentioned. We are, 29 days out from the election, and the pundits and media have all declared this race is now over. Who are they to declare this race is over? This is not the media's country. This is not the media's choice. It's not any political party's choice, not the choice of the Clinton Machine, or Hollywood it is not the choice of Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. This race will be over, and this election will be won, when the AMERICAN PEOPLE have made their voices heard on election day, just like Brexit!
The media has not even attempted to put this old Trump tape into context. The media has not, nor has it ever, applied the same standards to all of Hillary Clinton's flaws, which dwarf those of Trump. Yes, Trump's WORDS, 11 years ago, are offensive.
However what should be done about the BEHAVIORS and the ACTIONS of Hillary and Bill Clinton, in the years before he ran for president, his eight years in the White House, and during the years SHE was a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State?
Was Hillary as outraged over the scores of extramarital affairs Bill Clinton had before and during his time in the White House, and the lies they both told connected to THEIR BEHAVIORS concerning these affairs? Is she only NOW suddenly outraged over Trump's words on an 11-year-old recording?
Why did she refer to Monica Lewinsky as a “narcissistic Looney-toon”?
Was she outraged that her husband exposed himself to a woman named Paula Jones? Was she outraged when they had to pay $850,000 to settle the case with Paula Jones, while Clinton supporters called Jones a piece of trailer trash, and engaged in blaming HER, the victim?
Was Hillary outraged when another woman claimed Bill Clinton raped her? Did Hillary ever investigate those allegations? Did Hillary believe that Juanita Broaddrick had the right to be believed or heard, as she now claims all victims of assault have a right to be believed and heard?
Did Hillary ever reach out to Kathleen Willey after Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped, grabbed, fondled, and kissed her against her will?
Which is worse here? Donald Trump's WORDS or Bill Clinton's ACTIONS and Hillary's silence and her long-standing, ACTIVE smears and cover-ups? If Hillary is so concerned about women's rights and the treatment of women, why did she accept tens of millions of dollars from countries that abuse women, kill gays and lesbians, and persecute Christians and Jews? There is no record of Hillary ever being critical of any of these practices by these countries she took money from. She should give the money back!
Does it matter that Hillary, a self-appointed champion of women's rights, can be seen and heard laughing and bragging on videotape about defending (and getting a reduced sentence for) a man SHE believed to be GUILTY of raping a 12-year-old girl?
How about the blue dress, the oral sex in the Oval Office...the cigars? All of these lewd FACTS and BEHAVIORS perpetrated by Bill Clinton in one way or another "objectified" all of these women, did they not? And NONE of that ever outraged Hillary?
Up until this point in the campaign, Hillary has never been asked ANY of these important questions by an abusively biased and corrupt media. Perhaps NOW she will be asked about these things ... but I seriously doubt it!
Will anyone in the liberal media (in the next 29 days) ever ask Hillary any of these tough questions? No they won't ... Because there is a double standard in the liberal media. There is only feigned, or selective moral outrage!
If the Trump tape so "outraged" people, especially Hillary as she claims, then she must likewise be intellectually honest and morally consistent and condemn her own husband and their many friends who all engaged in slander and smears against women who actually WERE abused by the Clintons!
TBH, I would not be surprised if the Clintons and their supporters are sitting on more tapes showing Trump in an unfavorable light. They may release these at different points in order to divert attention from all of Hillary's national security and email scandals, lies, policy disasters and corruption and to continue to prevent a thorough examination of their despicable behaviors. This is what the Clintons do. This is what they have always done. This is how Hillary operates. And she believes as those around her do, that this election, and this presidency, is hers!
If Hillary gets to become the next POTUS she is not going to change a thing...8 years of Obama which has crippled America:

95 million Americans are out of the labor force. Of that, there has been a 20 percent increase in the number of black Americans who have fallen out of the labor force since Obama became president.

America has the lowest labour participation rate since the 1970s.

America is experiencing the worst economic recovery since the 1940s.

America has the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.

7 in 10 Americans have less than $1,000 in savings.

There are 12 million more Americans on food stamps today than before Obama took office. Of that, there has been a 58% increase in black Americans in food stamps since Obama became president.

There are 8 million more Americans in poverty than there were before Obama took office.

Obama is the only president in American history to never reach 3% GDP growth.

1 in 5 American families do not have a single-family member in the workforce.

1 in 6 American men 18-34 are either in jail or out of work and living in their parents' basement.

Millions of people didn't keep their doctors or their health care plans, nor did they save an average of $2,500 per family per year. Since Obama has been president, the average healthcare cost per family per year has actually increased by $4,100.

By the time Obama leaves office he will accumulate more debt than all 43 presidents before him combined. Before he entered office, he said 9 trillion in debt was "irresponsible and unpatriotic." Today, under his watch, that amount has more than tripled.

U.S. foreign policy has been a disaster for the last seven years.

U.S. policies under Hillary Clinton and Obama in Iraq and Syria created a vacuum for ISIS to emerge with the finances (oil) to expand their terror network, including into the United States.

Benghazi: The U.S. state department denied Security 600 times before the attack occurred. No help was sent during the attack, and multiple lies were told to the American people after the attack. (Though Hillary did tell the Libyan president, the Egyptian president, and her daughter, Chelsea, the truth.)
What is worse: Donald Trump's locker-room talk a decade ago? Or the fact that four Americans were abandoned and left to die?
In Egypt, Obama and Hillary supported Morsi, a prominent member of the Muslim Brotherhood who referred to "Jews" as "descendants of apes and pigs!"

But the question in this election is not who is "worse," or whose flaws are bigger or smaller. The question is, who has the BEST vision going forward for the future of America!


And what is Trump's Vision. Who prevented the Obama care?

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